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[Various] AMD’s Zen Eight Core CPU Delivers Double the Performance of the FX 8350 (Update 2)

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AMD has finally published additional performance figures for Zen beyond the 40% IPC improvement over excavator that the company talked about last year. The 40% IPC uplift figure represents the architectural performance per clock improvement of Zen vs AMD’s last CPU architecture, code named Excavator. And while comparing the architectural capabilities of Zen to Excavator may have been informative, it doesn’t offer a direct real-world product to product comparison. Thankfully, we do finally have direct real-world performance figures for Zen.

Compared to AMD’s “Orochi” quad module, eight core die powering the FX 8350, the Zen based desktop Summit Ridge eight core CPU delivers double the performance in Cinebench R15. This means that a single Zen core is in effect equivalent to two Piledriver cores in performance, which is incredibly impressive. This dramatic performance difference comes from the significant architectural performance per clock improvements in addition to Zen’s simultaneous multithreading capability.

it’s important to remember that AMD’s latest Orochi dies feature Piledriver cores rather than Excavator. Excavator cores are roughly 15% faster per clock than Piledriver This in turn puts Zen at a lead in excess of 60% vs Piledriver in terms of performance per clock. Doubling the performance of the FX 8350 puts Zen in direct competition with Intel’s eight core i7 5960X.

Source: http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-cpu-performance-double-fx-8350/

This chart is not official and should only be used for comparisons:



AMD FX 8350 @ stock in Cinebench R15 = 630-670 points

AMD Zen @ Stock in Cinebench R15 = 1300 points

Intel Core i7 5960X @ stock in Cinebench R15 = 1337 points
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AMD has published a graph which seems to indicate that the upcoming Summit Ridge-processor for desktops is twice as fast as the AMD FX-8350 processor. Specific numbers are missing, but the slide certainly shows 2x perf.

The graph was shown during a presentation to AMD investors. The image shows a comparison of Orochi with Summit. Orochi is the codename behind the AMD FX-8350 processor. With Summit AMD wuld be referring to Summit Ridge; including Zen CPUs for desktops.

Source 2: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-hints-that-zen-cpu-is-twice-as-fast-as-the-fx-8350.html
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According to AMD, Zen will deliver double the performance of their previous FX 8350, bringing them on par with Intel’s eight core i7 5960X Extreme Edition. Zen based CPUs are also revealed to offer beyond 40% improvement in instructions per clock (IPC) over the current Excavator lineup.

This may sound pretty impressive on paper, but AMD has also published the real-world performance comparison for Zen for the first time ever.

The comparison shows just how improved the eight-core Summit Ridge offering is compared to their “Orochi” quad module, which is also an eight-core die that powered the FX 8350.

Performance-wise, each Zen core is equivalent to two Piledriver cores. Considering Excavator cores are roughly 15% faster per clock than Piledriver, this means Zen would offer 60% more performance per clock than Piledriver – which in turn puts it in direct competition with Intel i7 5960X.

Source 3: http://techfrag.com/2016/05/24/amd-zen-summit-ridge-twice-fast-fx-8350-par-intel-i7-5960x-extreme/

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PDF: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9MzM5MzMxfENoaWxkSUQ9LTF8VHlwZT0z&t=1&cb=635992964179233292 (it's on Page 11 / 31)
Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 5/26/16 at 12:57am
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AMD FX 8350 @ stock in Cinebench R15 = 650 points

AMD Zen @ stock in Cinebench R15 = 1300 points

Intel Core i7 5960X @ stock in Cinebench R15 = 1337 points
So it's a flipping beast?
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So Jim Keller is a flipping beast!

FTFY.

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So it's a flipping beast?

I really hope this is true the cpu market is so boring right now.
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Source: http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-cpu-performance-double-fx-8350/

Intel Core i7 5960X @ stock in Cinebench R15 = 1337 points

5960X scores l33t eh?
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Now what is this actually going to be clocked at? IPC improvements are great obviously but if this thing is 3ghz or less with not much headroom it's really not a beast after all for **most** people.
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Now what is this actually going to be clocked at? IPC improvements are great obviously but if this thing is 3ghz or less with not much headroom it's really not a beast after all.

If is its anything like there previous chips. They all had a pretty decent overclock headroom.
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Now what is this actually going to be clocked at? IPC improvements are great obviously but if this thing is 3ghz or less with not much headroom it's really not a beast after all for **most** people.

But like, if it's twice as fast in r15 than an 8350.... it must have a decent clock no?
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Now what is this actually going to be clocked at? IPC improvements are great obviously but if this thing is 3ghz or less with not much headroom it's really not a beast after all for **most** people.

Your profile pic is fitting, you managed to come up with a negative that you created in your own mind wink.gif

If the cpu is 3Ghz and performs like that then it's a massive win for AMD.

Personally I think these said results are on a high clocked Zen probably in the 4ghz-4.5ghz range.

Would love to see a lower clocked X8 at 3-3.5ghz for about $500. Overclocker's dream biggrin.gif
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Now what is this actually going to be clocked at? IPC improvements are great obviously but if this thing is 3ghz or less with not much headroom it's really not a beast after all for **most** people.
me think this thing use higher core clock to match 5960X. At least it is matching 5960X. instead of FX8350 not anywhere near a quad core.

oh well who cares right? if the price/performance is really good, I will jump in too.
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