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I recently bought a Lian Li PE-750 and the wires are not long enough in my mid tower build.

I'll be custom cabling and sleeving a new set. I've these questions:

1) Copper stranded or aluminum stranded?

2) Gold-plated minifit connectors or regular?

3) Are there any 16G wires that have thin insulation that I can sleeve and still pin?

4) How much cabling/sleeving do I need?


I currently have 300ft of MDPC and will possibly need to cover a 24-pin, 3x 8-pins, 4-pin, and peripherals.
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I recently bought a Lian Li PE-750 and the wires are not long enough in my mid tower build.

I'll be custom cabling and sleeving a new set. I've these questions:

1) Copper stranded or aluminum stranded?

2) Gold-plated minifit connectors or regular?

3) Are there any 16G wires that have thin insulation that I can sleeve and still pin?

4) How much cabling/sleeving do I need?


I currently have 300ft of MDPC and will possibly need to cover a 24-pin, 3x 8-pins, 4-pin, and peripherals.

1, Copper. Don't even think about using aluminum.

2. Gold plated is better and doesn't cost that much more but, if you are on a really tight budget, the regular are fine.

3. https://mainframecustom.com/product-category/cable-sleeving/wire/

4. That depends on how long your cables are going to be and whether you will sleeve each able as a group or individually sleeve each wire on a cable.
     
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1, Copper. Don't even think about using aluminum.

2. Gold plated is better and doesn't cost that much more but, if you are on a really tight budget, the regular are fine.

3. https://mainframecustom.com/product-category/cable-sleeving/wire/

4. That depends on how long your cables are going to be and whether you will sleeve each able as a group or individually sleeve each wire on a cable.


On #3, are those aluminum wires?
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1, Copper. Don't even think about using aluminum.

2. Gold plated is better and doesn't cost that much more but, if you are on a really tight budget, the regular are fine.

3. https://mainframecustom.com/product-category/cable-sleeving/wire/

4. That depends on how long your cables are going to be and whether you will sleeve each able as a group or individually sleeve each wire on a cable.


On #3, are those aluminum wires?

None of them are aluminum. The photos are misleading. I have some of the #16 and it definitely is copper.
     
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I'm thrown off by how thin these are?

http://www.amazon.com/UL1007-Commercial-Copper-Bright-Diameter/dp/B003HGHPQ6/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1355106964&sr=8-5&keywords=black+18awg


Does it mean that each strand is 0.032 inches in diameter or is the entire wire that thick? Looks like I'll be throwing another hundo just for customized cables :|
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I'm thrown off by how thin these are?

http://www.amazon.com/UL1007-Commercial-Copper-Bright-Diameter/dp/B003HGHPQ6/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1355106964&sr=8-5&keywords=black+18awg


Does it mean that each strand is 0.032 inches in diameter or is the entire wire that thick? Looks like I'll be throwing another hundo just for customized cables :|

Who ever put up that Amazon listing is either ignorant or a liar. The sizes being given as the outside diameter for all the wires is the size of the conductor itself and does NOT include the insulation. I just sent Amazon a nastygram email informing them of the inaccurate product listing. With the misinformation being provided by Amazon, there is no way to know how thin that wire actually is.

You're making too big a deal of this. I've looked high and low for wire with the thinnest insulation and, for wire up to #16AWG (you are highly unlikely to need anything larger than #16), the wire Mainframe Customs sells is both the thinnest and the least expensive I've found so far.
     
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None of them are aluminum. The photos are misleading. I have some of the #16 and it definitely is copper.

It is tinned copper which is why it looks aluminum, but yes it is the best wire I would go with that for sure.
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None of them are aluminum. The photos are misleading. I have some of the #16 and it definitely is copper.

It is tinned copper which is why it looks aluminum, but yes it is the best wire I would go with that for sure.

No, as I said, I have the #16 wire and it is not tinned copper; it is just copper. It merely looks tinned in the photo, probably from flash wash. I agree it is the best wire, though.
     
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Any suggestions on getting MDPC sleeving on these 16 gauge wires and still be able to get it into the connector?

Doing the heatsinkless method and having the hardest time getting it in the connectors. Easily the worst decision on going 16 gauge.

Used mainframe's crimper and did not get a heart shaped bite into the insulation, just hugged around the insulation.
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Any suggestions on getting MDPC sleeving on these 16 gauge wires and still be able to get it into the connector?

Doing the heatsinkless method and having the hardest time getting it in the connectors. Easily the worst decision on going 16 gauge.

Used mainframe's crimper and did not get a heart shaped bite into the insulation, just hugged around the insulation.

I had problems using Mainframe's crimper and wound up returning it. The insulation wings crimped properly but the conductor wings would not crimp tight enough.

What kind of wire are you using. Mainframes? Mainframe's has thinner insulation than any other wire I have been able to find. Wire with thicker insulation will be harder to get into a connector body. Is it the unmelted sleeving, the melted portion of the sleeving, or the crimped pin itself that is too tight?

I don't individually sleeve my cables (nothing wrong with individually sleeved cables; I just personally don't care for the appearance of them) so I can't really comment other than to make sure you are using wire with the thinnest insulation possible.
Edited by Lady Fitzgerald - 6/11/16 at 3:42am
     
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