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I have a zotac amp extreme 1080. , since its clocked at 1772/1911 , afterburner can barely put +50 on the clock and I have noticed all the cards even the founders seem to hi 2126 or lower before they settle in at around 2101 , 2088 etc no matter what the card is , so is there a POINT to buying a $700 card or a $610 dollar card on newegg... all the reviews are saying they all hit this clock and its like a lock they cant go any higher than 2.1ghz....

Now i heard theres some LN2 thing that can make 2400 ghz? does anyone know about that at all?? I thougth that was an msi lightning bios?

Strange thing: my old 1080FTW did 2000mhz out of the box and 2126mhz maximum overclock. When I got the new one, I saw it did 2025mhz out of the box, so I guesses it would do 2151mhz overclocked, right? Wrong. Got the same 2126mhz as the old one.

The 2126mhz threshold you mentioned does seem to exist.

The way the card handles those 2126mhz is different, though. The new one flatlines after 1.031V, so the card can handle 2126mhz with 1.031V, while the last one would need the whole 1.062V to be stable.
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Only this POWER limit.... I have no idea how bypass it...
At 121% that's 291W, more than enough to achieve a much better score. Somethings not right.
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Hey guys, I get to join you later today. thumb.gif

The card I bought from another OCN member is capable of 2152 MHz on air, I wonder what it'll do under water.
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i know that the score of FS is crap but fps in games are much higher - on valley benchmark too wink.gif and i dont have MEM sweet point yet. Its a stock BIOS. Only this POWER limit.... I have no idea how bypass it...

btw ive reach 20820 points overall and 24920 graphics but fps in games was lower by 2-3 with MSI Hawk EK bios and similar with FE bios.

testing now higher clocks and we will see how far it goes

edit: 2354mhz seems ok after 3 benchmarks - i stick time spy graphics res:



the same story - with different bios i have higher bench results but 2-3 frames lower in games - testing in fallout4 and gta5

at 1.000v ive reach very stable 2151mhz


ps. sorry for double post


The scores don't make sense. We're both having issues, lol.
Mine won't validate (I need to contact 3DMark about the card I'm using)...
Ignore the date, i was lazy & didn't change the post-it note's date, lol.

Anyways, here's 2214mhz with +505 on memory. My scores are around 400 points higher. My FPS scale linearly in games (2200mhz is stable, 2214 is probably not stable in Doom).
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Hey guys, I get to join you later today. thumb.gif

The card I bought from another OCN member is capable of 2152 MHz on air, I wonder what it'll do under water.

If it is capable of 2152 Mhz on air, it will not sooo more under water. With The Water Cooling, it will always stay under 2152 Mhz because of the lower temps and be more stable.
The boost clock will not throttle. That's why you will become better results in the benchmarks.

I tested it with my gtx 1080 fe. Same factory Clocks, much better results (over 300 Points in fire strrike). The boost clock was only 38Mhz faster with the ek water block.

At least the problem will be only the power limit, not the temps as galeonki realized in this post. He is whinig because of throttling core -13 or -26mhz down biggrin.gif.
@galeonki you can not throw away the power limit without a shunts mod. In electronics, a shunt is a device which allows electric current to pass around another point in the circuit by creating a low resistance path. You can solder the shunts if the CLU Paste is not helpful. The shuntis there to measuring the power to not damage the card. Don't forget it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxtihQIs9fQ
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Originally Posted by galeonki View Post

I think i catch very good card

MSI Gaming X 1080

Core: 2341mhz - 2-3 days gaming and benchmarks 100% stable
Memory: 5584mhz - best for me for all games and bench's - but still looking sweet point
Voltage: 1.093
Temp: 64C max - I add thermal pads and copper radiators on backplate - 2-3C Temp down overall
I repaste Core by CLU - temps down 7-9C
80% max RPM cooler
Ambient temp: 24C

My only issue is POWER limit - sometimes throttle my core -13 or -26mhz down - but not very often and only for 1-2 sec

No shunts mod - because after paste CLU on resistors i had coil whine as hell

I tried 10 bioses and zero different for me - only Asus Strix OC bios without power limit push my card on 2380 on air but with 1.15 voltage - but my fps in games and bench results was the same like on stock Gaming X bios

Any idea how to throw away POWER limit? Shunt mod falls




@chiknnwatrmln
You can see the compare of watercooling and Stock cooling of my 1080 here:
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10298708/fs/9373549




Edited by Alperen62002 - 9/27/16 at 10:02am
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What's considered an average overclock for a 1080? How about a good one?
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Originally Posted by chiknnwatrmln View Post

What's considered an average overclock for a 1080? How about a good one?
@chiknnwatrmln You have a good one. If you have a founders edition, you have a very good one.thumb.gif. The normal overclocking potential for gtx 1080 FE is 2000-2100Mhz. The normal overclocking potential for custom (MSI, ASUS, GIGABYTE) gtx 1080 is 2100-2200Mhz. Galeonki catched a very good card. He had to play a lottery. biggrin.gif
If you don't play in 4k, it does not matter. Normal Clocks can handle it.
Edited by Alperen62002 - 9/27/16 at 9:57am
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At 121% that's 291W, more than enough to achieve a much better score. Somethings not right.

I think power limit is the key here - i shunt only 1 resistor (closest to voltage controler) and results are better but not that much - still i have "blinking" POWER on riva stat on benchmarks.
But 400pts on graphics TimeSpy more... still downclocking from max core speed bcz PL.
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At least the problem will be only the power limit, not the temps as galeonki realized in this post. He is whinig because of throttling core -13 or -26mhz down biggrin.gif.
@galeonki you can not throw away the power limit without a shunts mod. In electronics, a shunt is a device which allows electric current to pass around another point in the circuit by creating a low resistance path. You can solder the shunts if the CLU Paste is not helpful. The shunt measuring the power to not damage the card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxtihQIs9fQ

thx for advice - much better with shunt 1 resistor - i put now a very thin layer and no coil whine - i must test it with 2nd and 3rd resistor. Maybe this is the key why throttling core down...

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@galeonki I hope you know what you do. Do not overdo it with the resistors. The current cycle or the chip may can not handle it.exclamation.gif
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Originally Posted by Alperen62002 View Post

@chiknnwatrmln You have a good one. If you have a founders edition, you have a very good one.thumb.gif. The normal overclocking potential for gtx 1080 FE is 2000-2100Mhz. The normal overclocking potential for custom (MSI, ASUS, GIGABYTE) gtx 1080 is 2100-2200Mhz. Galeonki catched a very good card. He had to play a lottery. biggrin.gif
If you don't play in 4k, it does not matter. Normal Clocks can handle it.
Sweet thanks. It's an FE but it'll be under water in a week or so.
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