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I had been looking forward to Skylake-e but, since I'm so thoroughly disgusted with the garbage OSes that MS has put out since Win 7 and the despicable, deceptive practices MS has been employing to trick and force people onto the worst OS of the bunch, Win 10, especially after MS and Intel announced that Win 7 users would be forced to downgrade to Win 10 before 10/2017 (that has since been delayed for another year) or lose features and support, even though it was well before Win 7's EOL, I really don't give the north end of a southbound furry little rodent anymore when Skylake-e will come out! Haswell-e will be the end of the line for me since there is very little benefit for me to get Broadwell-e and, after what MS did to existing Win 7 users on Skylake after they had bought and set up their systems, I fear a similar stunt on Broadwell-e.

I know that sounds familiar, but what about Linux ? Also, does Windows 10 Server offers more "control" over other editions that could soften the mood ?
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I had been looking forward to Skylake-e but, since I'm so thoroughly disgusted with the garbage OSes that MS has put out since Win 7 and the despicable, deceptive practices MS has been employing to trick and force people onto the worst OS of the bunch, Win 10, especially after MS and Intel announced that Win 7 users would be forced to downgrade to Win 10 before 10/2017 (that has since been delayed for another year) or lose features and support, even though it was well before Win 7's EOL, I really don't give the north end of a southbound furry little rodent anymore when Skylake-e will come out! Haswell-e will be the end of the line for me since there is very little benefit for me to get Broadwell-e and, after what MS did to existing Win 7 users on Skylake after they had bought and set up their systems, I fear a similar stunt on Broadwell-e.

I know that sounds familiar, but what about Linux ? Also, does Windows 10 Server offers more "control" over other editions that could soften the mood ?

lachen.giflachen.giflachen.giflachen.giflachen.gif Why downgrade to Linux when Win 7 meets my software needs now and will until 1/14/2020 (unless MS pulls another stunt) and Broadwell-e will meet my hardware needs for some time to come? One Win 7 feature not available in Linux or Win 10 is Windows Media Center. Even though MS has reduced the level of support it receives, it still beats the big. fat, holy, hairy heck out of anything else available for recording OTA TV shows.
     
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My complaint is that they decided to make BW and enthusiast chip and not just skip directly to Skylake.. Enthusiasts are now a full 2 generations behind the non enthusiast chip.


I bought an X99 board and am tempted to go to Microcenter in Dallas and pick up a 5820k after seeing what this chip can (or can't) do.

I dont feel like NVme and octane are really that big of a loss.

This is the same reason i feel its too much for hedt. Its behind fine but what some of us have waited for 2 years and end up what? A failed architecture release that is still on same x99 chipset. Have to wait for a year since its on a new socket again for a board?

Did u guys not see the original schedule where in 2016 its suppose to be skylake e?
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$1723 USD for 10 Core CPU = $2244 Cad

$1299 USD for Pascal Titan = $1692 Cad


= ~$4000 Canadian for a CPU and GPU blinksmiley.gif

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Damn.... sad-smiley-002.gif

Il stick with 2 1080 or amd something
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It really doesn't matter how much you overclock a 10 core Broadwell-E, it will never directly compete with a 16 core model such as an Xeon E5-2683V4

As long as the 10-core is overclocked to 4.2GHz or over, it'll beat the E5-2683 V4 on a one-on-one basis in multi-threaded apps and destroy it in single-threaded apps. Having that multi-threaded ability without giving up the huge amount of single-threaded performance that the E5-2683 V4 forces you to give up makes the i7-6950X an interesting option for many people. I just wish it was dual-capable...frown.gif
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As long as the 10-core is overclocked to 4.2GHz or over, it'll beat the E5-2683 V4 on a one-on-one basis in multi-threaded apps and destroy it in single-threaded apps. Having that multi-threaded ability without giving up the huge amount of single-threaded performance that the E5-2683 V4 forces you to give up makes the i7-6950X an interesting option for many people. I just wish it was dual-capable...frown.gif

I have bad news for you: overclocking 6950x to more than 4.2Ghz is going to be tricky.

At this point may as well start lurking for 2679v4. 50% more multi thread for 25% less single thread (compared to 4.2Ghz 6950X) , sounds like a win to me.
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I know that sounds familiar, but what about Linux ? Also, does Windows 10 Server offers more "control" over other editions that could soften the mood ?
That's like 2000+ to avoid Win10, no?
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At this point may as well start lurking for 2679v4. 50% more multi thread for 25% less single thread (compared to 4.2Ghz 6950X) , sounds like a win to me.

A fair number of people are going to be looking for parts that offer more multi-threaded performance than their current hex or octo cores, without having to sacrifice lightly threaded performance.

Virtually anything that uses 10 threads or less is going to perform much better on a 4.2GHz 6950X than on a 3.2-3.3GHz 2679v4 and that 6950X is still going to do quite a bit better in heavily threaded tasks than any 8-core i7 and most Xeons with less than 16 cores.
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That's like 2000+ to avoid Win10, no?

If you pay full price.
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A fair number of people are going to be looking for parts that offer more multi-threaded performance than their current hex or octo cores, without having to sacrifice lightly threaded performance.

Virtually anything that uses 10 threads or less is going to perform much better on a 4.2GHz 6950X than on a 3.2-3.3GHz 2679v4 and that 6950X is still going to do quite a bit better in heavily threaded tasks than any 8-core i7 and most Xeons with less than 16 cores.
If you pay full price.

You're correct, indeed 6950X is going to outperform 2679v4 in anything short of 15 threads.

But then again, it does make 6950X ridiculously niche.

... wait a minute, how come 2679v4 is lower SKU than 2689v4, considering 2679v4 is fastest Broadwell-EP in existence, *** happened with Intel.
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