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post #321 of 600
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Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

This is like a BIOS orgy over here redface.gif

doh.gif

DISCLAIMER for anyone that is thinking of flashing another card's BIOS! (Click to show)
I won't recommend (for what my lowly opinion is worth) that anyone start flashing other vendor BIOS'... I totally get what you're trying to do but you are taking risks.. out of desperate measures. Pascal is making people take risks because there is a clear need for additional power and the community has been able to tell that some other BIOS' have a higher TDP/Max power defined. That's creative thinking for sure but the CORRECT action would be to take YOUR GPU's BIOS and MODIFY IT to increase the power (and other things).


We just don't have a Pascal editor yet...and who knows, maybe we never will... but this is the correct method and WHAT WE NEED..not to flash another vendor's BIOS from a completely different design.

There are some cases where it IS perfectly fine to flash another vendors BIOS, I'll briefly cover this now...


a Reference BIOS is fully compatible with all other reference boards of the same GPU.

GPUs with IDENTICAL PCBs are compatible (Like the WF3OC and G1)

A CUSTOM PCB solution with hardware changes that vary from a reference design have a customized BIOS for that hardware. Flashing one of these to another DIFFERENT customized board is taking a risk. It's like ripping out a trans-am engine and throwing it into a camaro... sure MOST things might fit just fine but will it be a perfect match? Flashing a CUSTOM PCB BIOS to a REFERENCE board is also taking a risk.

I'm only trying to make people aware, not trying to be Debbie Downer... JUST BE CAREFUL and educated.

Just sayin....



PS. I know that some have had some "success" by doing this but you should also keep in mind that GPU variances are normal. 100 points in 3DMark is considered a normal variance/margin of error. Unigine Heaven is more consistent usually. If anyone runs 3DMark 3 times in a row you will get 3 different scores usually with ~100 points total variance. Power usage is based on GPU workload and settings used and must be an identical comparison (exact same test, same settings, same scene, AVERAGED over a series of identical runs).


This thread is just scaring me now and I don't want to see anyone run into any problems with their brand new GPU....



.

Agree crazy bios orgy biggrin.gif

Now can some one tell me how you flash the 1080 xtreme to 1080 g1

Sorry just joking


i am holding off till i have more info re all this

So be careful chaps
post #322 of 600
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

This is like a BIOS orgy over here redface.gif

doh.gif

DISCLAIMER for anyone that is thinking of flashing another card's BIOS! (Click to show)
I won't recommend (for what my lowly opinion is worth) that anyone start flashing other vendor BIOS'... I totally get what you're trying to do but you are taking risks.. out of desperate measures. Pascal is making people take risks because there is a clear need for additional power and the community has been able to tell that some other BIOS' have a higher TDP/Max power defined. That's creative thinking for sure but the CORRECT action would be to take YOUR GPU's BIOS and MODIFY IT to increase the power (and other things).


We just don't have a Pascal editor yet...and who knows, maybe we never will... but this is the correct method and WHAT WE NEED..not to flash another vendor's BIOS from a completely different design.

There are some cases where it IS perfectly fine to flash another vendors BIOS, I'll briefly cover this now...


a Reference BIOS is fully compatible with all other reference boards of the same GPU.

GPUs with IDENTICAL PCBs are compatible (Like the WF3OC and G1)

A CUSTOM PCB solution with hardware changes that vary from a reference design have a customized BIOS for that hardware. Flashing one of these to another DIFFERENT customized board is taking a risk. It's like ripping out a trans-am engine and throwing it into a camaro... sure MOST things might fit just fine but will it be a perfect match? Flashing a CUSTOM PCB BIOS to a REFERENCE board is also taking a risk.

I'm only trying to make people aware, not trying to be Debbie Downer... JUST BE CAREFUL and educated.

Just sayin....



PS. I know that some have had some "success" by doing this but you should also keep in mind that GPU variances are normal. 100 points in 3DMark is considered a normal variance/margin of error. Unigine Heaven is more consistent usually. If anyone runs 3DMark 3 times in a row you will get 3 different scores usually with ~100 points total variance. Power usage is based on GPU workload and settings used and must be an identical comparison (exact same test, same settings, same scene, AVERAGED over a series of identical runs).


This thread is just scaring me now and I don't want to see anyone run into any problems with their brand new GPU....



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Now that we have modified nvflash from JoeDirt, are we just waiting for the bios tweaker that can load Pascal bios and make changes and save?
Sorry for asking noob questions.
post #323 of 600
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Originally Posted by juntulis View Post

Is there any bios I can flash safe for me 1080 g1?
I use GB 1080 Extreme (Air) bios, TDP 250 +50% smile.gif. G1 is running now +50Mhz with min. stable clocks vs. orig.G1 1080 bios.
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post #324 of 600
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Originally Posted by netok View Post

Hi, just a noob question.
Is it that I can only flash the bios from a card that has the same brand, same pin, same power phase?
For example, what other bios can be flashed into a MSI 1070 Armor OC?
Thanks!!

you can flash all the bios for the gaming x msi gtx 1070
post #325 of 600
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by netok View Post

Now that we have modified nvflash from JoeDirt, are we just waiting for the bios tweaker that can load Pascal bios and make changes and save?
Sorry for asking noob questions.

Yes we are so close but yet so far...

no BIOS editor yet
post #326 of 600
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Originally Posted by Andreadeluxe View Post

you can flash all the bios for the gaming x msi gtx 1070
That means I can also flash gaming z bios too? since it is OCed version of gaming x
Thanks!
post #327 of 600
Yes, but that BIOS wasn't uploaded by anybody yet.
post #328 of 600
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Originally Posted by danielmm View Post

Yes, but that BIOS wasn't uploaded by anybody yet.

exactly
post #329 of 600
indeed people need to wait for a pascal editor, flashing with diff vendor bios is crazy.
post #330 of 600
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Originally Posted by DStealth View Post

As a compare the same card and system just GB BIOS one strap lower much higher score...

Your memory is higher though, ~100mhz on mem would give you a better score than 13mhz on core. Regardless you have a good chip, over 2100 is great!
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