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Originally Posted by HOPELESSLYFAITH View Post

and as stated water is not an option...i swear people can't read on this forum *facepalm*.

Indeed! I acknowledged that in the last sentence of the first paragraph, but it seems you didnt make it that far redface.gif.

Good Luck!
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post #22 of 31
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Originally Posted by Puck View Post

Indeed! I acknowledged that in the last sentence of the first paragraph, but it seems you didnt make it that far redface.gif.

Good Luck!

still keep mentioning it though.
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post #24 of 31
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Originally Posted by toolmaker03 View Post

http://www.overclock.net/newsearch/?search=TEC+air+cooling&output=all&containingforum%5B0%5D=62&type=all&advanced=1
it's not that hard to some research here at OCN
http://www.overclock.net/t/120395/here-it-is-a-air-cooled-tec-setup.
they actually made one, but it does not perform very well.

nothing as robust as what i want to do plus i am debating about soldering it.
post #25 of 31
I do really urge, that you at least look at what others have tried, not just here but on other forums as well, none of them have really been successful at creating a air cooler that works well for a direct die setup on a TEC.

this is coming from a guy that spent three years trying to get a parallel setup on a custom water cooling loop to work, when everyone told me there is no real difference between a serial configuration, and a parallel configuration of the hardware. I had to design a configuration of the hardware that had never been done, for it to work.

even my current TEC build is something that I have not found anywhere, but I am convinced that it is possible for it function and many of the people here at OCN have helped me to get this far.

I am not trying to discourage you, but what your trying to do is to basically design a air cooler that currently does not exist. this endeavor will be even harder than I what I did, or even what I am trying to do now. it is very possible that you could spend thousands in different designs before you figure what kind of air cooling design will be needed for this to work the way your wanting it to.
post #26 of 31
as a helpful insight, I would suggest calling some of the manufactures of CPU air coolers, it is possible that one of them have a massive prototype CPU air cooler that they have developed, and is currently just sitting on a shelf. It may not have been a practical build for the consumer market, but it might be for you, it wont be cheap, but it would be a great place to start.
post #27 of 31
IMO TEC is NOT the way to go for a datacenter.
The efficiency is so bad you'd be wasting a ton of power running it 24/7.
I would say a TEC is even more hassle than a custom water loop.
post #28 of 31
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Originally Posted by SanguineDrone View Post

IMO TEC is NOT the way to go for a datacenter.
The efficiency is so bad you'd be wasting a ton of power running it 24/7.
I would say a TEC is even more hassle than a custom water loop.

water is not an option and i don't pay for electivity. I have a budget of 8 or 16 amps at 120v so as llong as I am under that i don't care.
post #29 of 31
to give some conception of what kind of CPU cooler that I think might work, would be a 15" to 24" tall CPU air cooling unit, with 12 to 24 heat pipe lines, with 6 to 8 120mm fans attached to it.

http://imgur.com/zielwRn

my paint skills are not to good but I hope you can get the idea of what I am trying to suggest.
post #30 of 31
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Originally Posted by HOPELESSLYFAITH View Post

water is not an option and i don't pay for electricity. I have a budget of 8 or 16 amps at 120v so as long as I am under that I don't care.

Stumbles into the thread; Sorry to be late for the party, but what are we celebrating anyway? biggrin.gif

Seriously, I've done a lot of research on heat pipe air coolers especially recently, since I am soon going to replace mine, and I just wanted to share with you in case you did not already know, that the Thermalright True Spirit 140 is TDP rated for 360w.

Quality wise Thermalright makes an excellent product as I have been running my Thermalright 120 Ultra Extremes for years, they are the original Thermalright TRUEs.

Now don't take what I am suggesting as the solve to your situation because even though it is rated for 360w max I wouldn't throw anymore than 300w at it, you need some safety buffer because peltiers are constant power draw not like a CPUs fluctuating output, so take that into consideration in your testing.

Edit: I also want to tell you that the 360w rating was accomplished using the 140mm 1300rpm at 73.6cfm 21dba fan that comes with the Thermalright cooler you can actually affect the high quality heat pipe air coolers cooling capabilities by using higher RPM and CFM cooling fans than the manufacturer is using.

You need to keep in mind that air cooler manufacturers are not only competing against other brands in cooling performance but acceptable noise levels as well, but if you are willing to have a higher noise level, you can get better cooling results than the stock rating.

That is exactly what I am doing with my present setup because I am running 110cfm fans on my 120 TRUEs.

Edit 2: If you take a good look at the design of the Thermalright True Spirit 140 you can see that Thermalright did not route any of the heat pipes directly behind the fan motor body, all the heat pipes are positioned in the actual fan blade airflow path.
Edited by OCAddict - 8/4/16 at 7:19am
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