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Best GPU investment ever made within the recent years I'd say. The R9 290 will be the next best one. AMD GPUs do age well, especially if you're not trying to 4K and 60+ fps consistently.

I completely regret not snatching up a 290X when they were regularly going for $200 used a few years ago.
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I completely regret not snatching up a 290X when they were regularly going for $200 used a few years ago.

Yeah they aged like a god damn fine wine.

When I got my 290X for 150€ from a friend who upgraded to a GTX 980 I wasn't really impressed with it, because the GTX 970 just came out and in initial reviews the GTX 970 looked much better than the 290X.

The 290X were still going for 300€ on ebay so I thought about selling the 290X and grabbing a GTX 970, but I decided against it, because I didn't feel like going through the trouble of selling/buying.

So basically 2 years later and I love how the 290X turned out to be. Now it is faster in most games than the GTX 970, it even competes with the GTX 980 and at 1440p and 4K, DX12 etc. it starts to perform better than those cards. It took a while for AMD to get it right, but the 290X is a product that keeps on delivering.

I would still trade my 290X for a GTX 980, but definitely not for a 970.
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That's the thing with AMD cards. Only their long term users know how good their cards really are. But a lot of people are on this consumerism cycle where they upgrade more often than they really need to. AMD does not get a chance with them, while nVidia already has their confidence. Hopefully this will change with Polaris.

It's a shame really... I sympathize with AMD, because their strength, which is their longevity, ultimately disallows them to sell more cards since upgrading is not necessary as quickly as with nVidia.
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Yeah they aged like a god damn fine wine.

When I got my 290X for 150€ from a friend who upgraded to a GTX 980 I wasn't really impressed with it, because the GTX 970 just came out and in initial reviews the GTX 970 looked much better than the 290X.

The 290X were still going for 300€ on ebay so I thought about selling the 290X and grabbing a GTX 970, but I decided against it, because I didn't feel like going through the trouble of selling/buying.

So basically 2 years later and I love how the 290X turned out to be. Now it is faster in most games than the GTX 970, it even competes with the GTX 980 and at 1440p and 4K, DX12 etc. it starts to perform better than those cards. It took a while for AMD to get it right, but the 290X is a product that keeps on delivering.

I would still trade my 290X for a GTX 980, but definitely not for a 970.

The 290x's (released Oct 13) original competitors were the 780 (Apr 13)/780 Ti (Nov 13). It's absolutely crushing them now. I've been more then happy (re: ecstatic) at how they've aged over the last 3 years.

One of the best purchases I've ever made. Can't say the same for 4 year old Vishera though, although its held its own as multi-core support has finally started to take off.
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Yeah they aged like a god damn fine wine.

When I got my 290X for 150€ from a friend who upgraded to a GTX 980 I wasn't really impressed with it, because the GTX 970 just came out and in initial reviews the GTX 970 looked much better than the 290X.

The 290X were still going for 300€ on ebay so I thought about selling the 290X and grabbing a GTX 970, but I decided against it, because I didn't feel like going through the trouble of selling/buying.

So basically 2 years later and I love how the 290X turned out to be. Now it is faster in most games than the GTX 970, it even competes with the GTX 980 and at 1440p and 4K, DX12 etc. it starts to perform better than those cards. It took a while for AMD to get it right, but the 290X is a product that keeps on delivering.

I would still trade my 290X for a GTX 980, but definitely not for a 970.

preaching to the choir man, bought mine for 400$ on launch day- Litecoined mined for a week, made 400$, sold litecoins, enjoyed a great card for almost 3 years now. thumb.gif
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And i am sitting here on a GTX 650 waiting for AMD so i can buy something cool.

At the moment i could only consider a 1070 or something 2-nd hand. And to buy a 2-nd hand good card in my country is like buying it new.

I've saved up 500 US for that upgrade but prefer not to spend them all on a GPU. So a 299 US + taxes/delivery and a 390x+ performance looks great in my book.
Lowering performance will require lower price if AMD want to win any market share at this point.

Most people i know are aware that their card is "NVIDIA" and that is all they know having no clue what model it is yet they are damn proud it's Nvidia.
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That's the thing with AMD cards. Only their long term users know how good their cards really are on the long term. But a lot of people are on this consumerism cycle where they upgrade more often than they really need to. AMD does not get a chance with them, while nVidia already has their confidence. Hopefully this will change with Polaris.

It's a shame really... I sympathize with AMD, because their strength, which is their longevity, ultimately disallows them to sell more cards since upgrading is not necessary as quickly as with nVidia.

Devil's advocate - if AMD was able to provide fully optimized drivers *at* launch, then they wouldn't *need* to rely on 'aging like fine wine,' as so many like to point out.

They would have more competitive hardware at launch and would have the increased marketshare to boot tongue.gif

Instead you have Raja dancing the night away with a cigar. I thought things would change with Raja at the helm of RTG, but maybe I expected too much.
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I'm not up to speed on this, but is Polaris an architecture update?

From what I understand Pascal is pretty much Maxwell with a shrink? No new 'smarts'? (apart from the VR thing)

Polaris is GCN 4.0 but there's more to the 14nm tech than that. 14nm allows for layers of transistors in a way beyond what you can do with 20/22/28/32nm and so its transistor count can be much higher than 16/14ths of a 16nm of the same die size.

16nm OC's like a frat party but in that same 630mm^2 lithography a 14nm work will have a LOT more parallel horsepower.

This all remains to be seen but I'm fairly certain that with the tech improvements that AMD has made involving Mantle, Vulkan and Dx12 that AMD will have no problem putting multiple chips on cards... like 4 per card even.
Edited by prjindigo - 5/31/16 at 8:20am
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I completely regret not snatching up a 290X when they were regularly going for $200 used a few years ago.

I don't regret snatching the 295x2 at $1200 with a coupon, am very sad my 290X couldn't keep up with it and died (air cool trying to pace with a water cool just didn't work out)
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