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Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post

an X70 card equaling prev X80Ti card at lower draw sounds pretty damn good to me

doesnt make any sense to me to get a 980Ti now that 1070 is out and offers more then Maxwell (VR, DX12_1, some improvement in DX12, future optimizations) as well as 2GB extra VRAM, unless you are getting 980Ti considerably cheaper


but hey 980Ti is still a beast of a card so its not a bad purchase

There were a couple used 980tis for 300 EURO in german amazon.Good deal imo
post #1062 of 1194
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an X70 card equaling prev X80Ti card at lower draw sounds pretty damn good to me

It's good, that's true, but not a "miracle" in the sense that it's the logical performance increase and power draw you'd get from going from 1000MHz to 1600MHz and 28nm to 16nm.

Nobody says Pascal isn't good. It is. It's just not an architectural feat as Maxwell was e.g.
post #1063 of 1194
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It's good, that's true, but not a "miracle" in the sense that it's the logical performance increase and power draw you'd get from going from 1000MHz to 1600MHz and 28nm to 16nm.


I'd say that is pretty darn good considering 970 was slower than 780Ti (9% according to techpowerup) and 1070 is faster than 980Ti (13% according to techpowerup), referring to reference in both cases tongue.gif




maxwell->pascal is significantly better than kepler -> maxwell if we're comparing new gen x70 vs old gen x80Ti . evidence right in front of you.

72% improvement in performance per watt compared to 970





but still disappointing for people who want a "mircale" rolleyes.gif probably expecting a card that runs 6 months on a 3V battery without having to plug it into PSU
Edited by Klocek001 - 6/18/16 at 6:16am
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miracle = Huang personally gifts each Pascal buyer a Lamborghini
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I'd say that is pretty darn good considering 970 was slower than 780Ti and 1070 is slightly faster than 980Ti (referring to reference tongue.gif) maxwell->pascal is significantly better than kepler -> maxwell. evidence right in front of you.

but still disappointing for people who want a "mircale" rolleyes.gif probably expecting a card that runs 6 months on a 3V battery without having to plug it into PSU

don't forget that the bottom image is "full system" power draw which includes CPU and other component's power draw.
so the card's power consumption is lower than that, probably 80% or so, assuming the other parts are semi-idle then thats roughly 280W power consumption for SLI.
Edited by epic1337 - 6/18/16 at 6:01am
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don't forget that the bottom image is "system" power draw, the card's power consumption is much lower than that, probably 70% or so.
my aim was to prove 1070 sli draw the same as 980ti, if they run on the same system it's a valid comparison. both will have to subtract the same number from the total power draw to calculate the gpu power draw.
Edited by Klocek001 - 6/18/16 at 6:05am
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my aim was to prove 1070 sli draw the same as 980ti, if they run on the same system it's a valid comparison.

i see... though on that point, yes pascal is a large improvement in terms of perf/watt.

though theres one thing that bothers me, why does Pascal only support OpenCL 1.2?
OpenCL 2.0 introduced a bunch of good things, like nested parallelism (Async Compute), and pooled memory.
Edited by epic1337 - 6/18/16 at 6:11am
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i see... though on that point, yes pascal is a large improvement in terms of perf/watt.

though theres one thing that bothers me, why does Pascal only support OpenCL 1.2?
OpenCL 2.0 introduced a bunch of good things, like nested parallelism (Async Compute), and pooled memory.
cause it don't do async and don't pool memory ?
post #1069 of 1194
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Originally Posted by Klocek001 View Post

cause it don't do async and don't pool memory ?

that doesn't sound nice at all, i can't see much future on pascal.
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Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post

that doesn't sound nice at all, i can't see much future on pascal.

lol

i'm not even gonna dignify that with a funny meme response
stereotypes are not always true, but imagine a person posing as a GPU expert choosing amd cause 16GB is faster than 8GB. Ironical, isn't it? Reminds of FX8 vs i5

my post was referring to nvidia vs nvidia comparison, go troll somewhere else wave2.gif
Edited by Klocek001 - 6/18/16 at 6:52am
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