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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

I I remember correctly most GTX970 where $330 even with custom coolers. $420 is a pretty heft price for a card like GTX1070.

"But, but, but, production costs increased, and it competes with the 980 ti now! And it's cheaper than the 980ti at launch MSRP!"

The first point would be correct without a doubt, but price increases from one gen to the next is quite astounding. It is progress, but not the progress anyone was expecting for a x70 series card in terms of pricing and features.

I think prices won't settle to the new baseline until winter time I'd say. I think the instant gratification of getting the best asap is the reason of the price it is now and they're capitalizing for sure. New market's price will be around $450 I'd say.
Edited by bucdan - 6/10/16 at 10:41am
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post #862 of 1194
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Why are you such an angry person? I understand it is not a vanilla card, but $40 over MSRP for that cooler? Ha!

I had two different ACX cooled cards and the ACX cooler was junk on both.
Exactly.

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yes

That's unfortunate because they only charge $20 for that same cooler on the 1080.
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Quit listening to the miserable party-politicians and the media.

Well Britain is not gonna leave anyways.
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Anything other than the FE cards were not promised on day one.

Maybe. Mind you I am not complaining. It is what it is. I would just like people to admit to the FACTS at hand instead of constantly defending Nvidia's tactics.
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Because the moment those words came out of their mouths, it was bs to begin with, but Nvidia defenders will say otherwise. Same thing that happened with the 1080. Prices are hovering above MSRP, and Nvidia will just say, "it wasn't our intention to compete with AIB's, don't blame us! It's not our fault that AIBs don't want to list their cards lower than ours when we gave the sly reason as to why!" while they collect the money in the back lol.

Squeezing the market supply to artificially raise the prices so they stay and hover within the margin above MSRP for the long run, and they can because people will buy anyway. Nice tactic huh?

I'm going to expect a 1080 ti for $899 this gen, then artificially inflated to $1000. The market will increase the price for them, and they don't have to do it themselves so they can point the finger elsewhere.

I suspect the price will rise even higher than you think. The GTX 980 Ti was more expensive than the Titan X. The prices ranged from $649.99 - $1049.99 MSRP which was ridiculous. Of course we can expect prices to skyrocket when Nvidia is setting the playing field. The AIBs will follow suit and so will Nvidia customers.
    
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Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post

there is shortage of 1000 series due to extremely high demand thumb.gif


so just wait some and you'll get your 1070 with a bad cooler for $380-400 rolleyes.gif

I'm fine with all of this. Gives me time to get a water block that is definitely compatible, and the bad cooler is fine because of the aforementioned water block.

Actually, I prefer to wait as I definitely want an EVGA (all about the customer service, and ASUS and MSI's complete lack of it), and there has not been a definitive answer to the ACX cards being 100% reference design. With my luck I would jump and buy the one card that no one would make a block for. tongue.gif
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Because the moment those words came out of their mouths, it was bs to begin with, but Nvidia defenders will say otherwise. Same thing that happened with the 1080. Prices are hovering above MSRP, and Nvidia will just say, "it wasn't our intention to compete with AIB's, don't blame us! It's not our fault that AIBs don't want to list their cards lower than ours when we gave the sly reason as to why!" while they collect the money in the back lol.

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I'm going to expect a 1080 ti for $899 this gen, then artificially inflated to $1000. The market will increase the price for them, and they don't have to do it themselves so they can point the finger elsewhere.

You do realize that Nvidia doesn't make any extra money when newegg sells a 1080 for an inflated price right.
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Maybe. Mind you I am not complaining. It is what it is. I would just like people to admit to the FACTS at hand instead of constantly defending Nvidia's tactics.

That tactics are lousy. But certainly no worse than AMD's paper launches and extremely low supplied reference launches.
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I suspect the price will rise even higher than you think. The GTX 980 Ti was more expensive than the Titan X. The prices ranged from $649.99 - $1049.99 MSRP which was ridiculous. Of course we can expect prices to skyrocket when Nvidia is setting the playing field. The AIBs will follow suit and so will Nvidia customers.

That's just how it is. Only way to stop that is if AMD pushed highend first with their pricing, but they won't do that.
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You do realize that Nvidia doesn't make any extra money when newegg sells a 1080 for an inflated price right.

Okay, understandable. But I don't get anymore money left in my pocket either. Not complaining, but actualizing the situation.
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there is shortage of 1000 series due to extremely high demand thumb.gif


so just wait some and you'll get your 1070 with a bad cooler for $380-400 rolleyes.gif

Yup! The demand is so high here in Canada that they magically disappear before entering the country. That's got EVERYTHING to do with people buying them here.

Oh wait...
 
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