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Hey, if you want to go have a ball and post pirated and copyright infringing content all over OCN, I'm not stopping you. Have fun! wink.gifthumb.gif
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The point is, I don't care enough about it to whine on a thread about it. What sort of terrible things have to happen in your life to stick your nose up and insult someone when they post an informational video? Do you call the cops when someone doesn't use their turn signal? Do you also go to grocery stores and scream at people when they buy non-organic foods? It's just a complete shock to me that somebody could be so miserable.

Like, I'm not even sure you're serious right now.

I get that my comment on the matter might have been a little snarky, but insult? You're acting like i contacted a moderator and had the guy's account banned. The only one making a drama out of the matter is you.

I'm so sorry that my post offended you so badly that you had to fill an entire page about it.
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Do you have the copyright for your avatar?

Sure, I contacted Daft Punk and they gave me their full approval to use it as an avatar on this forum. biggrin.gif
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Honestly would never go back to a Mini ITX case no matter how neat they look... I've had a few and the work involved in simply not worth it. Unless you truly have crazy space constraints or want to travel with your case (as I did with my Lian Li mini ITX), I fail to see the point.

That said these are impressive.
I went ITX and regretted it.

After some time, new tech will be released and I couldn't use it because I didn't have enough PCI slots, space for fans or rads, ram slots etc.
It was a very restricted approach to PC building, kinda like a game console. It's important to buy a case that offers the most flexibility as possible.
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I went ITX and regretted it.

After some time, new tech will be released and I couldn't use it because I didn't have enough PCI slots, space for fans or rads, ram slots etc.
It was a very restricted approach to PC building, kinda like a game console. It's important to buy a case that offers the most flexibility as possible.

In my opinion ITX has its uses but for a "normal" PC I would go with mATX or ATX considering price premium itx mobos have. What really makes me scratch my head is all the "ITX" cases that are large enough to hold an mATX board.

For a really small footprint system, though, ITX is irreplaceable. But putting one in a case larger than about 15 L ... like why not go with mATX already then?
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I'm planning to build ITX setups for relatives since they want to be able to carry around their PC to other relatives while visiting sometimes or bring it back to me for repair or maintenance.


My question for this case is it more flexible than say a Hadron Air? I don't know about any of you, but ever since I saw an EVGA Hadron air, I was blown away how small it was while seemingly like it could fit everything I'd want.


Also which of the two, this and the hadron air would provide better gpu and cpu temps? And would anyone know which is smaller?
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I'm planning to build ITX setups for relatives since they want to be able to carry around their PC to other relatives while visiting sometimes or bring it back to me for repair or maintenance.


My question for this case is it more flexible than say a Hadron Air? I don't know about any of you, but ever since I saw an EVGA Hadron air, I was blown away how small it was while seemingly like it could fit everything I'd want.


Also which of the two, this and the hadron air would provide better gpu and cpu temps? And would anyone know which is smaller?

The A4 at 7.25L is less than half the volume of the hadron air at 15.88L. So by SFF itx standards, the hadron is on the pudgy side. biggrin.gif

Check out the Official OCN SFF thread for many smaller, newer (and to me, better) options to the Hadron Air. Whether any is more flexible depends on your own build criteria.
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I'm planning to build ITX setups for relatives since they want to be able to carry around their PC to other relatives while visiting sometimes or bring it back to me for repair or maintenance.


My question for this case is it more flexible than say a Hadron Air? I don't know about any of you, but ever since I saw an EVGA Hadron air, I was blown away how small it was while seemingly like it could fit everything I'd want.


Also which of the two, this and the hadron air would provide better gpu and cpu temps? And would anyone know which is smaller?

If you want a small portable case then look at Lian Li TU-100 or TU-200. I would suggest going with mATX over ITX as the selection of components are better and it does not have that extra cost on top that almost all small from-factor systems have. Depends on the budget and what, exactly, the system is supposed to do ofc.

Another option is to get a case which you like, in general, and then mod it. In the simplest case if there is no fan at the top the "mod" would be just drilling 4 holes and bolting an handle on top. Something like this:

That is a regular 3 EUR door handle from nearby hardware store. Up to around 12 kg / 20 lbs it's ok even if not in particularly good shape physically. Above about 15 kg or 30 lbs I would suggest adding a option for using a shoulder strap, something like this:


The systems on these pictures are using full ATX motherboard, picking an compact mATX it should be relatively easy to get a system somewhere between 8 and 10 kg if you do not water cool or go nuts with hard disks (these are heavy, add like 0.75 kg each). If the system will see regular transport I would suggest avoiding tower coolers, almost none of them fall under the ATX spec actually and while they are fine in stationary case I have had a CPU socket damaged once by your run-of-the-mill 1kg tower air cooler.
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I'm planning to build ITX setups for relatives since they want to be able to carry around their PC to other relatives while visiting sometimes or bring it back to me for repair or maintenance.


My question for this case is it more flexible than say a Hadron Air? I don't know about any of you, but ever since I saw an EVGA Hadron air, I was blown away how small it was while seemingly like it could fit everything I'd want.


Also which of the two, this and the hadron air would provide better gpu and cpu temps? And would anyone know which is smaller?
EVGA Hadron Air is like 2-3 times the size of A4-SFX so hardly comparable. I don't know about Hadron temps, but I know that there are benchmarks for A4-SFX that show temperatures of cpu/gpu outside and inside case, and there's only 2-3C difference, which is awesome.
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If the system will see regular transport I would suggest avoiding tower coolers, almost none of them fall under the ATX spec actually and while they are fine in stationary case I have had a CPU socket damaged once by your run-of-the-mill 1kg tower air cooler.

That's why its generally recommended to detach tower coolers before transport, shouldn't take more than a min if you get one with with a decent mount.

In case of a liquid cooled system, draining your loop before transport is recommended too. You can't drain CLC's but they're all terrible anyway.

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The A4 at 7.25L is less than half the volume of the hadron air at 15.88L. So by SFF itx standards, the hadron is on the pudgy side. biggrin.gif

Check out the Official OCN SFF thread for many smaller, newer (and to me, better) options to the Hadron Air. Whether any is more flexible depends on your own build criteria.
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EVGA Hadron Air is like 2-3 times the size of A4-SFX so hardly comparable. I don't know about Hadron temps, but I know that there are benchmarks for A4-SFX that show temperatures of cpu/gpu outside and inside case, and there's only 2-3C difference, which is awesome.

The A4-SFX is an awesome case indeed, but its not available yet and is in a whole different price class than the Hadron.

Something like the Silvertone SG13, ML07, ML08, FTZ01 or Fractal Node 202 are more in the affordable price range and are still relatively small cases that fit full size GPU's.

The Jonsbo/Cooltek UMX1, Parvum X1.0 and Lian Li PC-Q10WX are similar in size to the hadron but less restrictive harware wise and also much more affordable than the A4-SFX.
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That's why its generally recommended to detach tower coolers before transport, shouldn't take more than a min if you get one with with a decent mount.

In case of a liquid cooled system, draining your loop before transport is recommended too. You can't drain CLC's but they're all terrible anyway.

In my case the system was seeing daily transport. It's a portable desktop I carry between work and home. I'm currently in 4th or 5th iteration, depending if one starts counting off-the-shelf stuff or from custom modded cases. Properly done custom loop is safer for transport without draining than tower heat-sink on a bumpy road. Just need to have the case rigid enough and ensure that everything is properly fastened inside case. Downside of water is ofc that it's normally about 2 .. 3 kg heavier than comparable setup under air cooling.

If talking about CLC's I personally would spend the extra ~20 .. 30% and get a custom starter kit and throw a GPU into the loop as well. The price is not much higher than upper level CLC's, performance is in the same ballpark but the main component benefiting from water cooling in the system is normally GPU.
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