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Still no word on when the Asus cards will be out on newegg? I'm curious on how well these Strix cards will overclock.
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NP mate ... yeah, common misunderstanding is that there's actually a 'hard limit' of 150W on the 8pin, 75W on the 6-pin ... these are all just 'ratings' that are extremely conservative in regards to 'safety' ... and the GPU makers will 'adhere' to these ratings when designing cards and attach plugs accordingly based on TDP, to pass UL regs and ATX specs ... but in reality all power supplies will allow somewhere between 'a lot' and 'a ton' more juice through them before kicking off due to OCP ... if the device they're powering is simply 'requesting it'.

So, if you've got an unrestricted bios on your card that's saying 'screw rated TDP, I want more juice', there's absolutely nothing stopping your single 8-pin cable from providing the requested juice unless you have a ridiculously sensitive OCP circuit on your PSU.

And there's no actual 'danger' unless you start drawing WAY WAY above the 150W rated current, that danger being your wires got red hot and melt the shielding, etc.

Think for example about your vacuum or your iron ... running on a cable that is really not EVEN as big as your 8 pin cable. You think you GPU is pulling the kinda power that your Iron is, at full heat? No way. You could probably run any single gpu cards ever created (and most dual-gpu) on a single 8-pin (at least on a beefy, single-rail psu) ... it's just ... your wires would start getting warm.
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Have you ever seen it go higher than that? That's why I am wondering about mine. I haven't found anyone who has said that theirs boosts to what mine does regularly. I am trying to figure out what determines the boost as it seems everyone's card is different.

It'll be interesting to see if there's any common thread.

I remember with Kepler there was what I called 'the Kepler Boost', which was a fixed value that a given card would always clock up to (above and beyond the 'boost' clock', per GPU-Z), UNLESS it was being limited by thermals or TDP.

EVERY card had some set amount of Kepler Boost when it came from the factory, and it was always a multiple of 13MHz core. Some people had a 26MHz boost, some a 104MHz, some a 130MHz ... one person I think even had a 152MHz Kepler Boost ... and he also was able to OC the HAY-ELL out his card in the end. Mine I think has a 130MHz boost, and it turned out to clock exceptionally at the top end.

Again, this was based on measuring what your card would run at ABOVE the specified 'boost clock'. Every card was different back with Kepler too ... well, I mean, apart from the Kepler boost always being a multiple of 13MHz wink.gif

ALthough it seems that Maxwell and Pascal are a LOT more sensitive to downclocking, I would GUESS that a similar phenomenon is still going on with both these generations ... everybody's cards has a 'set amount' they can auto-boost above their rated 'boost clock' ... provided there's no other limiting factor.

And the card YOU got ... looks to have a very very high 'Pascal Boost' rating, so I'm betting you'll find your top-end is VERY high ... if the same logic holds true with Pascal as did with Kepler ...
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It'll be interesting to see if there's any common thread.

I remember with Kepler there was what I called 'the Kepler Boost', which was a fixed value that a given card would always clock up to (above and beyond the 'boost' clock', per GPU-Z), UNLESS it was being limited by thermals or TDP.

EVERY card had some set amount of Kepler Boost when it came from the factory, and it was always a multiple of 13MHz core. Some people had a 26MHz boost, some a 104MHz, some a 130MHz ... one person I think even had a 152MHz Kepler Boost ... and he also was able to OC the HAY-ELL out his card in the end. Mine I think has a 130MHz boost, and it turned out to clock exceptionally at the top end.

Again, this was based on measuring what your card would run at ABOVE the specified 'boost clock'. Every card was different back with Kepler too ... well, I mean, apart from the Kepler boost always being a multiple of 13MHz wink.gif

ALthough it seems that Maxwell and Pascal are a LOT more sensitive to downclocking, I would GUESS that a similar phenomenon is still going on with both these generations ... everybody's cards has a 'set amount' they can auto-boost above their rated 'boost clock' ... provided there's no other limiting factor.

And the card YOU got ... looks to have a very very high 'Pascal Boost' rating, so I'm betting you'll find your top-end is VERY high ... if the same logic holds true with Pascal as did with Kepler ...

Is there any way to check the boost rating on my card? I was doing some experimenting last night... It is definitely temperature related. If I kick the GPU fans up to turbo in the Gigabyte utility and kick my case fans up a tad off of idle it will boost up over 2000 all day. If I set case fans at idle and leave the GPU fans at auto it stays around 1974. Seems like 65C is the turning point. Once it reaches 65C it starts to cut the boost back. I did have one game lock up when I was playing with it boosting above 2000 but I am not sure if that was related to the game or the GPU clocks. Seems like it has no problem running and completing benchmarks when its auto boosting above 2000. Here's a firestrike ultra at 2012 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8991302 I'm sure the score would have been higher if I wouldn't have turned off my CPU OC the other day.
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Anybody here with G-Sync monitor ?
Can somebody confirm that possibly new 1070/1080 drivers are causing G-Sync to glitch ?
As example in this video at Dragon's Dogma startup.. no matter whether g-sync is set to fullscreen or windowed/fullscreen.. when G-Sync is disabled it does not do this.
https://youtu.be/W4xowhKpNrY
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Anybody here with G-Sync monitor ?
Can somebody confirm that possibly new 1070/1080 drivers are causing G-Sync to glitch ?
As example in this video at Dragon's Dogma startup.. no matter whether g-sync is set to fullscreen or windowed/fullscreen.. when G-Sync is disabled it does not do this.
https://youtu.be/W4xowhKpNrY

I have G-sync activated (PG279Q) and I don't have any flickering issues at all. Does it only happen at start up, or do you experience it whilst gaming as well?
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Nope, not in games, just in 2d stuff like menus and after it happens in menu it is also happening on desktop as well.

EDIT:

Seems this is related to MSI afterburner.. with it turned off it does not do this so far..
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I may have missed it earlier in this thread, so I am sorry if this is known already. I started having crashes this weekend after updating to the newest beta Afterburner. This was happening in games and benchmarks that previously had stability. Come to find out the issue had to do with Afterburner. Event logs never showed Afterburner as the culprit, but on a hunch I figured it was worth a shot to uninstall. This may have been an isolated issue with my machine, but wanted to give a heads up to anyone having an issue and not sure what it could be.

This actually worked for me as well, so thanks for the heads up.
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I am quite impressed with the 1070 Gaming X so far. Without touching anything in MSI Afterburner, my card boosts to 1980 odd Mhz. I now run it at +100Mhz, 126%, and a fixed fan speed of 50% (I literally cannot hear it; I have to open up my case and put my ear up against it, and even then it's soooooo quiet it's unreal.) My max boost is now 2076Mhz, and it settles back down to 2032Mhz after hours at max load, 1440p gameplay, at stock voltage. The absolute max temperature the card has reached is precisely 70'C in a hot room. I can't imagine how cool it will be when the winter gets here, haha.

What core numbers are those of you with MSI 1070 Gaming Xs seeing? Just curious.
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This actually worked for me as well, so thanks for the heads up.

Awesome. Glad the info helped someone. smile.gif
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