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Quick test Firestrike basic, new driver v373.06 vs 372.90

Still pretty much the same for me Graphic scores ~20,8XX.
Strange he can manage 2151mhz & 9000mhz, but Graphic scores 20,3XX. He should easily at least get 21K graphic scores, imo



My card only can manage around 2101-2068mhz & 9000/9200mhz in Firestrike Bench, but graphic scores slightly higher 20,8xx.

How can this happen, many time i see people with higher corespeed, but graphic scores pretty much the same or below the people who has lower corespeed.

Many factors. CPU, Mobo, CPU OC, RAM and RAM latency, voltage, temps, drivers, processes, bloat apps, etc... these may lower the fps even by 1 or by a few but that affects the graphic scores nonetheless.
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Hello guys. Does this method http://www.overclock.net/t/1523391/easy-nvflash-guide-with-pictures-for-gtx-970-980/70 works with GTX 1070 cards? Can I flash both bioses for cards with Dual bios or second bios are protected and can't be flashed?
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Ahhhhhh.... i didn't realize swapping out a TV (or GPU) would cause so many troubles.
I think the tearing no longer happens, perhaps it just needed a restart, but now I get other odd issues.
*Edit: Tearing is back after another restart to try something. I think it is related to when Windows no longer lets Aero work, but I cant turn it back on and it may come back on its own after sleeping and I believe with TV/Receiver off.*
**Edit2: I found something showing some of this is a Windows 7 limitation so I guess it won't be fixable. Microsoft Link**

The biggest now is that if the TV is not on PC input, my screens will turn on and off and keep cycling or checking inputs, idk.
This is the first time I have noticed any of this so something started it that I cant explain.
I disconnected the TV display in windows for now so it stopped.

I am also pretty sure then even with my TV and receiver off, windows still somehow thinks a 3rd monitor is connected and I can even move my mouse over into the "3rd screen".
I would expect it to just only see 2 screens and work with them until I power the receiver and TV back on, but it isn't working like that.

I have also seen windows turn off Aero and make my desktops go to a black background and no longer see any icons on my desktop, this is with the TV connected and on PC input.
Perhaps it is just shifting the other 2 monitors into a corner of a display or something because the 3rd screen is 4k and it tries to make the others big too, but its not like my mouse thinks the screens are bigger.

(^^^This rolls into the above "edit 2")

I have a feeling most of these things occur once I have the TV and receiver off or changed inputs from PC to OTA TV or Smart TV Apps.
These few things are hard to explain and maybe not consistent so it's even harder to troubleshoot.
Everything may change too once I restart the PC again.

One last one that I am pretty sure is GPU related is that the GPU must have it's display inputs in some default priority.
When I do a restart, my Bios splash screen and stuff will show up on my secondary monitor connected via DVI, but once windows login finally pops up, it shifts to the correct main display connected via DP.
This may have occurred even before I swapped out my TV and certainly only started after changing GPUs and how my main screen is connected (used to be both via DVI).

So many little problems and troubles that I don't know where to begin or how to troubleshoot which component is causing the problems... very frustrating.
Edited by mrtbahgs - 10/8/16 at 11:04pm
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Interesting.

The newest drivers let me run memory 100mhz faster in Timespy than I could before. Maybe they focus on DX12 performance??

Did you have to lower your core clock? Voltage slider?

 

I am using a custom curve and not the slider so that skews the "Core Clock" reading.  I reduced the power target slider to 95%. The card started the bench at 2126mhz +500 (9100Mhz), was mostly running at 2114Mhz with occasional drops to 2080. The way I have my curve set up combined with the higher memory clocks, has a tendency for the card to want to pull more than 220Watts at peak loads and that tends to crash the card. Reducing the target slider takes the top off those power "spikes". 

 

I have come to the conclusion that the MSI 126% power target setting may only be useful if you are using some sort of active cooling like LN2 because it is certainly way higher than the circuitry of the card on air can cope with in my rig. Techpowerup.com claims the MSI bios is set for 230W at 100% with a boost to 291W but, at least on an Asus Z68 motherboard with PCIe 2.0, the card cannot cope at those levels even though it is being fed by a platinum rated HX850i power supply in single rail mode.

 

I don't have a modern pcie 3.0 board to test it available so the power draw issues may vary with the newer hardware.


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Interesting.

The newest drivers let me run memory 100mhz faster in Timespy than I could before. Maybe they focus on DX12 performance??
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Newer drivers do seem a bit less. Previous ones I could run timespy as high as +215/+850 without crashing. Here mine crashed once and froze another time. When I did get it to finish, score was 130 points less.

Are you guys running 3dmark stress test or just the benchmark test. Mine is still the same and fails on stress test(Firestrike Ultra). No artifacts tho.
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Interesting.



The newest drivers let me run memory 100mhz faster in Timespy than I could before. Maybe they focus on DX12 performance??
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Originally Posted by TheGlow View Post

Newer drivers do seem a bit less. Previous ones I could run timespy as high as +215/+850 without crashing. Here mine crashed once and froze another time. When I did get it to finish, score was 130 points less.


Are you guys running 3dmark stress test or just the benchmark test. Mine is still the same and fails on stress test(Firestrike Ultra). No artifacts tho.

 



Mine was the benchmark
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May I please join?
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Hello guys. Does this method http://www.overclock.net/t/1523391/easy-nvflash-guide-with-pictures-for-gtx-970-980/70 works with GTX 1070 cards? Can I flash both bioses for cards with Dual bios or second bios are protected and can't be flashed?
no, dont do it
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I am using a custom curve and not the slider so that skews the "Core Clock" reading.  I reduced the power target slider to 95%. The card started the bench at 2126mhz +500 (9100Mhz), was mostly running at 2114Mhz with occasional drops to 2080. The way I have my curve set up combined with the higher memory clocks, has a tendency for the card to want to pull more than 220Watts at peak loads and that tends to crash the card. Reducing the target slider takes the top off those power "spikes". 

I have come to the conclusion that the MSI 126% power target setting may only be useful if you are using some sort of active cooling like LN2 because it is certainly way higher than the circuitry of the card on air can cope with in my rig. Techpowerup.com claims the MSI bios is set for 230W at 100% with a boost to 291W but, at least on an Asus Z68 motherboard with PCIe 2.0, the card cannot cope at those levels even though it is being fed by a platinum rated HX850i power supply in single rail mode.

I don't have a modern pcie 3.0 board to test it available so the power draw issues may vary with the newer hardware.
tpu should be wrong. check these two out

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http://tech.sina.com.cn/n/t/2016-07-19/doc-ifxuapvw2296082.shtml
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