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Sorry, I missed this.

There is nothing you can do with a stock 1070 that will break your video card. Try everything and see what happens. Just do not set afterburner to apply your overclock settings at login because it can create a boot loop if your GPU OC settings are out enough to cause a crash.

Pascal will down clock as temperatures increase. That is the nature of GPU Boost 3.0. If you are finding that the GPU will crash or give you watchdog Bluescreens of death, maybe have a look at tweaking motherboard voltages. A slight vcore voltage increase can someimes help and small Vccio and system agent voltage increased settings may also help with stability running the GPU faster.

I suggest that while high frequencies do relate to performance you look at primarily frame rates rather than maximum frequencies. You may find that in some cases, a slightly lower core clock with higher memory speeds give you better performance. You should also treat this as a performance journey, There are so many different variations that it is doubtful that anyone has actually found the absolute limit of what they can do. Next week or next month you may try something completely different and find a performance boost so dont give up trying new things.

I'm currently playing Metro Last Light and while in Fire Strike and Heaven is stable, in Metro doesn't. I did some test with the GPU fans at 100% and I can reach a higher oc, that's true. I'm still looking the best settings but the performance impact (even beign unstable) is not very noticeable (taking into account that I have an OCed card by default and I can reach +55 in core clock (without considering the curve) and +750-800 in mem clock).
post #7792 of 9393
hi guys,
i've tried searching a bit but direct question probably is better:

i've seen there are some 1070 with overheating problem,
some other with memory issues,
some other with coil wine problems,and so on.

which is a reliable brand/model for gtx 1070,
known for NOT giving problems?

my plan is also to oc it as much as possible,
probably watercooling in the near future but not now(got no time to rebuild my custom loop i'm busy with work).

thank you.
post #7793 of 9393
EVGA had some issues more recently, but are resolving this with the ICX cooler. However, I have not seen them on sale at retailers yet. Regardless the ACX 3.0 issues have been addressed.

I haven't seen too many complaints about the MSI cards (outside of their asking prices early on).

My 1080 G1 was solid, though one card did have some coil whine. Coil whine is simply going to be luck of the draw on a lot of cards. As for other cards, I can't really comment on that.
 
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Anyone wondering, the gtx 1070 in laptops is just as amazing as desktop version, I overclocked +500 vram and +150 core, I hit 2012 core in most games and never budge over 70 celsius.... its insane ^^
    
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Anyone wondering, the gtx 1070 in laptops is just as amazing as desktop version, I overclocked +500 vram and +150 core, I hit 2012 core in most games and never budge over 70 celsius.... its insane ^^

The laptop variant has more cores than desktop.
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I'm currently playing Metro Last Light and while in Fire Strike and Heaven is stable, in Metro doesn't. I did some test with the GPU fans at 100% and I can reach a higher oc, that's true. I'm still looking the best settings but the performance impact (even beign unstable) is not very noticeable (taking into account that I have an OCed card by default and I can reach +55 in core clock (without considering the curve) and +750-800 in mem clock).

By you mean Firestrike is stable, is it on the 3dmark Benchmark or 3dmark Stress test one? How many time did you run the test?
3d mark benchmark and 3dmark Stress Test is different ...
For Stability Test use 3dmark Stress test (Pass 97 % at least, 20 loops), or you can use a Customization Loops (Infinite loops).

I can pass 3dmark benchmark with higher Graphic scores & OverClocked settings, but once in 3dmark Stress test, it will crash randomly pretty easy (if overclocked too much)..
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Originally Posted by gtbtk View Post


Sorry, I missed this.

There is nothing you can do with a stock 1070 that will break your video card. Try everything and see what happens. Just do not set afterburner to apply your overclock settings at login because it can create a boot loop if your GPU OC settings are out enough to cause a crash.

Pascal will down clock as temperatures increase. That is the nature of GPU Boost 3.0. If you are finding that the GPU will crash or give you watchdog Bluescreens of death, maybe have a look at tweaking motherboard voltages. A slight vcore voltage increase can someimes help and small Vccio and system agent voltage increased settings may also help with stability running the GPU faster.

I suggest that while high frequencies do relate to performance you look at primarily frame rates rather than maximum frequencies. You may find that in some cases, a slightly lower core clock with higher memory speeds give you better performance. You should also treat this as a performance journey, There are so many different variations that it is doubtful that anyone has actually found the absolute limit of what they can do. Next week or next month you may try something completely different and find a performance boost so dont give up trying new things.

I'm currently playing Metro Last Light and while in Fire Strike and Heaven is stable, in Metro doesn't. I did some test with the GPU fans at 100% and I can reach a higher oc, that's true. I'm still looking the best settings but the performance impact (even beign unstable) is not very noticeable (taking into account that I have an OCed card by default and I can reach +55 in core clock (without considering the curve) and +750-800 in mem clock).

did you take another look at refining your motherboard settings? If they are a little bit off from being optimal, what was stable with a maxwell card can fall over with pascal because the maxwell card could never stress some of the components enough for the sloppy settings to matter.

 

Talking about +55 is not very beneficial as everyone has different cards with different base clocks, better to talk about clock frequencies. The same goes for memory overclocks.

 

Having said that, If you are running +800 memory overclocks, while not enough to crash the benchmarks, are probably giving you errors that the memory error correction is having to deal with and failing in metro last light. try dropping your memory overclock down to say +500 and see how that goes for stability. vccio voltage may also help with stability. did you try looking at that in your bios?

post #7798 of 9393
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Originally Posted by caenlen View Post

Anyone wondering, the gtx 1070 in laptops is just as amazing as desktop version, I overclocked +500 vram and +150 core, I hit 2012 core in most games and never budge over 70 celsius.... its insane ^^

how does it go in firestrike?

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By you mean Firestrike is stable, is it on the 3dmark Benchmark or 3dmark Stress test one? How many time did you run the test?
3d mark benchmark and 3dmark Stress Test is different ...
For Stability Test use 3dmark Stress test (Pass 97 % at least, 20 loops), or you can use a Customization Loops (Infinite loops).

I can pass 3dmark benchmark with higher Graphic scores & OverClocked settings, but once in 3dmark Stress test, it will crash randomly pretty easy (if overclocked too much)..

I mean the benchmark test not the stress one. Why I didn't use the stress test? Because I used to use furmark for stability test but I think that the stress test are extremly heavy for what a graphic card needs. But I don't test any other than furmark, I will give it a try.
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Originally Posted by gtbtk View Post

did you take another look at refining your motherboard settings? If they are a little bit off from being optimal, what was stable with a maxwell card can fall over with pascal because the maxwell card could never stress some of the components enough for the sloppy settings to matter.

Talking about +55 is not very beneficial as everyone has different cards with different base clocks, better to talk about clock frequencies. The same goes for memory overclocks.

Having said that, If you are running +800 memory overclocks, while not enough to crash the benchmarks, are probably giving you errors that the memory error correction is having to deal with and failing in metro last light. try dropping your memory overclock down to say +500 and see how that goes for stability. vccio voltage may also help with stability. did you try looking at that in your bios?

You are right, I would have to talk with clocks speeds not the increments.

The only setting that I made in the bios was the VCCIO which I set one "point" higher than auto (apart of the RAM settings, timings, speed and voltage).

In GPUZ I have the following:

Default core clock: 1633
Default boost clock: 1835
Default mem clock: 2002

Current core clock: 1688
Current boost clock: 1890
Current mem clock: 2387

While playing, I usually make test with core or mem, not both at the same time, and crash with core clock increases but all this comments help to find the best settings and to learn how this generation works.
post #7800 of 9393
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Originally Posted by yevonxxx View Post

hi guys,
i've tried searching a bit but direct question probably is better:

i've seen there are some 1070 with overheating problem,
some other with memory issues,
some other with coil wine problems,and so on.

which is a reliable brand/model for gtx 1070,
known for NOT giving problems?

my plan is also to oc it as much as possible,
probably watercooling in the near future but not now(got no time to rebuild my custom loop i'm busy with work).

thank you.

EVGA cards did have some faulty capacitor issues that were erroneously blamed on VRM overheating. EVGA have provided extra thermal pads to mitigate. They have also announced a new model card with upgraded cooler design with sensors everywhere to try and shut up all the people who are fixated on "overheating" problems. EVGA card bioses are set up to hit power limits very quickly so they are probably not the best choice foor water cooling.

 

There are no 1070 cards with memory problems. Cards that came with Micron Chips, for the first 4-5 months of the production life of 1070s last year, did have a bug in the bios that effected the memory controller with the micron chips and caused blue screen crashes if you overclocked the memory more than about 400Mhz above stock. Nvidia pushed Bios updates through all the vendors last November and it resolved the issue. All brands have sold cards with both micron and samsung memory installed so what you get is luck of the draw. 

 

Gigabyte cards do have a reputation for coil whine and also for fans hitting the heatsync fins making noises. there are other mentions of cards with coil whine but they do not seem to be as prevalent. it just seems to be a bit of a lottery.

 

The very highest over clocked 1070 you can buy is probably the Gainward GLH/Palit Gamerock that comes with a 1671 core clock and a 250mhz memory OC from the factory. They also have a 250W power limit

 

Zotac Amp extreme is a very good card and has the highest power limit of 300W.

 

In real terms having the 2nd pcie power cable is more for marketing than it is for performance

 

You can always cross flash your card with a bios from another vendor so you get little value buying a card with the highest factory overclock. with the exception of the Galax HOF cards, you can pretty much flash any bios you like to any other card

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