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Yes. 

these are early and current results:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/9470128/fs/11822144#

That is Firestrike.
I am asking if you noticed any improvement in games? How much of a framerate difference did you get?

I am in between power supplies at the moment so I can access the rig. Rise of Tomb Raider from memory was improved a from mid 90s to 110ish

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@gtbtk Thanks for pointing this out. Definite noticeable stability with 0.950 instead of .900 . I noticed while on Tera, thought the choppiness was due to poorly optimized game, but once changed to .950, it feels smoother, (game is still poorly optimized imo). Also, I agree with your point of not to worry about max clock, since boost 3.0 will handle it.
gtx 1070, strix, msi ab freq/volt curve

Obviously 2088 will be better than 1900. :-)

 

The other thing that you should be aware of is that fine line is actually "0". For the first coupe of months I had that card I didn't work it out and always assumed that the curves baseline was fixed but it isn't. It represents an offset from a baseline and is cumulative if you are fiddling and tweaking the curve. You can end up with 2 curves that look the same if you only pay attention to the red line with the adjustment points, but are actually totally different so it can lead to confusion. To keep track of what you have changed, You are usually better off resetting the curve to the default and building a new curve up from scratch while you are learning the quirks.

 

As an example, you can go wild and create a curve that looks like the top one. What you have actually done in that admittedly extreme example, is created a curve like the bottom one. The whole thing works fine as long as you understand what both lines actually mean.

 

 

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I am in between power supplies at the moment so I can access the rig. Rise of Tomb Raider from memory was improved a from mid 90s to 110ish

That's pretty good.
Now you have me convinced to go ahead and OC this card now, before I get the card set up for water cooling.

You are using MSI ab right? If so what are the initial settings you use, or at least as a starting point for me.

Are the core and memory clocks still done in steps of 13?
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Any of you guys try the new Unigine Superposition?
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Any of you guys try the new Unigine Superposition?

It's out!??lmaosmiley.gif

downloading now

edit: made a successful run at 2164mhz. Though that speed isn't stable in most games. There were a few red dot artifact thingys


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I am in between power supplies at the moment so I can access the rig. Rise of Tomb Raider from memory was improved a from mid 90s to 110ish

That's pretty good.
Now you have me convinced to go ahead and OC this card now, before I get the card set up for water cooling.

You are using MSI ab right? If so what are the initial settings you use, or at least as a starting point for me.

Are the core and memory clocks still done in steps of 13?

 

What I would suggest that you do is install Precision XOC and use that to start out. That has an Automatic Overclock utility that you can run against your EVGA card.

 

It is not the most accurate tool in the world and I would not assume that the curve it sets will be completely stable, but what it will do is let you see roughly how the different voltage levels on the curve overclock. After you have played with the auto OC, you can use Afterburner or precision. What ever you like better. Personally I prefer Afterburner because I can make finer adjustments on the curve. Precision does offer more features for EVGA cards than it does for other brands though.

 

On my MSI Card, I flashed an EVGA bios to try it out and ran the auto tune against my "EVGA" card and found that the voltage points around 1.0V are the weakest points and will only support an increase of around +50 over the base clock of my card. The points at the low end and high end of my card's curve around 0.800V are quite happy to run at +125 to +150.  

 

Once you get a reasonable idea of the point with the lowest OC headroom, it is easy to set an OC with the slider and gives you a starting point if you want to try overclocking using the Curve feature in either AB or Precision XOC.

 

The steps in afterburner with Pascal are approx 12.5 apart, start out making +25 adjustments and then reduce 12 or 13 points to fine tune if the +25 score is too high.

 

1070 Loves memory overclock. I would try setting that to +500 to +600 to start with and increase as far as you can go while remaining stable. Some people can run stable at +800 but that is not  everyone. My card will run with memory at +700 but it is not completely stable, I tend to run it at about +675 over reference.

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What I would suggest that you do is install Precision XOC and use that to start out. That has an Automatic Overclock utility that you can run against your EVGA card.

It is not the most accurate tool in the world and I would not assume that the curve it sets will be completely stable, but what it will do is let you see roughly how the different voltage levels on the curve overclock. After you have played with the auto OC, you can use Afterburner or precision. What ever you like better. Personally I prefer Afterburner because I can make finer adjustments on the curve. Precision does offer more features for EVGA cards than it does for other brands though.

On my MSI Card, I flashed an EVGA bios to try it out and ran the auto tune against my "EVGA" card and found that the voltage points around 1.0V are the weakest points and will only support an increase of around +50 over the base clock of my card. The points at the low end and high end of my card's curve around 0.800V are quite happy to run at +125 to +150.  

Once you get a reasonable idea of the point with the lowest OC headroom, it is easy to set an OC with the slider and gives you a starting point if you want to try overclocking using the Curve feature in either AB or Precision XOC.

The steps in afterburner with Pascal are approx 12.5 apart, start out making +25 adjustments and then reduce 12 or 13 points to fine tune if the +25 score is too high.

1070 Loves memory overclock. I would try setting that to +500 to +600 to start with and increase as far as you can go while remaining stable. Some people can run stable at +800 but that is not  everyone. My card will run with memory at +700 but it is not completely stable, I tend to run it at about +675 over reference.
I already had my encounters with precision X and I prefer using MSI AB which is much more stable than anything EVGA software wise. I'll stick with AB for now.

When I was OCing my 980 (of which had a modded bios) I just used the sliders in AB and have never used the curve feature you mention. So I am completely new to that. With my 980 I hit some really great numbers even without watercooling the card. This was the best OC and subsequent Firestrike test I could get with the card: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7868284, which gave me the best overall score (for a single 980) in in the 2016 AMD vrs Nvida competition.
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Just tried a new driver whql 381.65 and Windows 10 Creator Update (1703)

3d mark firestrike result
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12307496

+75 core clock, +600memory (9200mhz effective), max voltage, max power, 100% fanspeed.
highest point core clock is at 2076mhz seen in curve table. Custom curve = no.
Overall & Graphic scores pretty much the same as before,i didn't see any improvement.

Why reddit saying there is an improvement, https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/63t2bg/driver_38165_faqdiscussion_thread/
AS you can see 381.65+w10 CU got +500points graphic scores on 3d mark firestrike compared with windows 10 AU (anniversary update old version). i didn't see any improvement on my system.
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What I would suggest that you do is install Precision XOC and use that to start out. That has an Automatic Overclock utility that you can run against your EVGA card.

It is not the most accurate tool in the world and I would not assume that the curve it sets will be completely stable, but what it will do is let you see roughly how the different voltage levels on the curve overclock. After you have played with the auto OC, you can use Afterburner or precision. What ever you like better. Personally I prefer Afterburner because I can make finer adjustments on the curve. Precision does offer more features for EVGA cards than it does for other brands though.

On my MSI Card, I flashed an EVGA bios to try it out and ran the auto tune against my "EVGA" card and found that the voltage points around 1.0V are the weakest points and will only support an increase of around +50 over the base clock of my card. The points at the low end and high end of my card's curve around 0.800V are quite happy to run at +125 to +150.  

Once you get a reasonable idea of the point with the lowest OC headroom, it is easy to set an OC with the slider and gives you a starting point if you want to try overclocking using the Curve feature in either AB or Precision XOC.

The steps in afterburner with Pascal are approx 12.5 apart, start out making +25 adjustments and then reduce 12 or 13 points to fine tune if the +25 score is too high.

1070 Loves memory overclock. I would try setting that to +500 to +600 to start with and increase as far as you can go while remaining stable. Some people can run stable at +800 but that is not  everyone. My card will run with memory at +700 but it is not completely stable, I tend to run it at about +675 over reference.
I already had my encounters with precision X and I prefer using MSI AB which is much more stable than anything EVGA software wise. I'll stick with AB for now.

When I was OCing my 980 (of which had a modded bios) I just used the sliders in AB and have never used the curve feature you mention. So I am completely new to that. With my 980 I hit some really great numbers even without watercooling the card. This was the best OC and subsequent Firestrike test I could get with the card: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7868284, which gave me the best overall score (for a single 980) in in the 2016 AMD vrs Nvida competition.

I am not suggesting you use precision long term. The auto OC feature is a handy tool to get a rough profile of your card.

 

You can have both installed at the same time, just don't run them at the same time

 

980 didn't have the curve to edit. It is a new feature with pascal cards that lets you eek out the last bit of performance from your card.

 

With the slider, it might go unstable at say, +100 if you are only using the slider. The instability is because one of the voltage points is unstable at +100 and the slider moves the entire fixed shape curve up and down. The weakest point could be say, 1.025V, All the other points might be quite happy at +150.

 

With the slider only, you waste all the OC potential of that extra 50 points for all the rest of the points other than the 1.025V.

 

Using the curve allows you, once you have identified which point is the weak one, to increase all the others up to their +150 max potential while leaving the 1.025 point at +100. The auto OC thing in Precision helps you identify the weak points on the curve more easily than starting from scratch.

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Just tried a new driver whql 381.65 and Windows 10 Creator Update (1703)

3d mark firestrike result
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12307496

+75 core clock, +600memory (9200mhz effective), max voltage, max power, 100% fanspeed.
highest point core clock is at 2076mhz seen in curve table. Custom curve = no.
Overall & Graphic scores pretty much the same as before,i didn't see any improvement.

Why reddit saying there is an improvement, https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/63t2bg/driver_38165_faqdiscussion_thread/
AS you can see 381.65+w10 CU got +500points graphic scores on 3d mark firestrike compared with windows 10 AU (anniversary update old version). i didn't see any improvement on my system.

 

Did you enable game mode for 3dmark? 

 

windows+G key while you are in 3dmark lobby page opens the game bar and will allow you to check a box to enable game mode for the application. Make sure you disable GameDVR in xbox settings

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