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I was kidding, indeed the GTX 980Ti is a great card and still relevant for today applications and games and that is what matter in the end.
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I was kidding, indeed the GTX 980Ti is a great card and still relevant for today applications and games and that is what matter in the end.

Perhaps you should check this out if you are comparing GTX 980 Ti to GTX 1070. It's right under your noses:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1628699/sli-gtx970-g1-gaming-vs-gtx980-ti-strix-oc-vs-gtx1070-dual-benchmarks

GTX 1070 Dual does not go higher than 1770 MHz boost, while GTX980 Ti Strix OC goes up to 1550 MHz. Yes, had the GTX 1070 been Strix OC, it could reach 2+ GHz as proven elsewhere, but i agree that GTX980 Ti has better silicon lottery.
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Just installed a Nvidia GTX-1070 Founders a few days ago......will add a waterblock to it soon.....smile.gif
     
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22k Graphic scores but is it 100% stable no crash/artifacts in all programs, games, stress test, benchmark?

After overclocking progress it also needed a serious & proper stress test to your components, If you're crashing/artifacting at certain applications, you're just passed that benchmark.

Just like example CPU, you can boot with 5GHZ, but in certain stress Test/programs you'll BSOD or crash.

Just FYI because Some people are just not aware of this.
A proper stress test like this https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/215439774868691574/

Part B point 4; using 3dmark Stress test Firestrike/FSX/FSU/Timespy
I´m running my daily OC with a few mhz less on core and memory.With that OC I get 226xx GPU score.Completely stable in BF1,several 3DMark benchmarks,Unigene Superposition/Heaven/Valley and so on.I tested something. I dont actually have a 1070.Its a 980Ti.I have never seen a 1070 that could beat my score , not even the highest overclocked ones.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19417680
My daily clocks are 1600/2000 but even with these clocks I only saw a few 1070 barely beating my GPU score.I saw some people upgrading from a OC´d 980Ti to a 1070(also OC´d) and actually losing FPS and graphics score.My 980Ti is pretty rare (in terms of OC potential) and outscoring every 1070 except 1/10000 in every FireStrike.

There are not many 980TI that run better than 1070s. You have a great card. Best Graphics score I could manage on my i7-2600 rig was about 21500. Unfortunately my rig died the other day and not got up to deciding on what new one to get myself.

 

As a matter of interest, how are you overclocking your skylake rig? Are you just using multiplier or a combination of BCLK and multi to get the cpu/ram to 4.7/3466? If BCLK what straps are you using for the memory, what ram timings are you running with your memory and what latency are you getting with your ram?

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@gtbtk
You are amazing. So if I understand increase VCCIO and PCH(?) voltage can increace OC of graphics?

One more thing is it possible to flash strix bios 1,24v to MSI Gaming X?

VCCIO and CPU PLL voltage, not PCH. At least on my Z68 motherboard. i am using bclk overclocking as well. I only needed 

 

Z77 are fairly similar so I assume that it may also have an impact but i don't know how well it would work for more recent boards.

 

It worked for me, primarily with GDDR5 memory stability .

 

this is one of the best runs I got http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11784694

 

As far as I know, the 1.2V bios is only for the 1080. If one does exist and I don't know about it, please let me know where I can get it. If it does exist, then you should be able to flash the bios to a Gaming x. the regular Strix bioses work on the msi

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I never wanted to brag.I just wanted to find out if theres any 1070 air/watercooled highly oc´d that could beat my 980Ti and i guess a 1070 owners club is a good place for that.In every comparison video between 980ti/1070/1080 they use like the worst reference 980ti sleeping at stupid low clocks so this information is completely useless.

 

Believe me, it is not just 980ti comparisons, the tech media is pretty average for most things other than reading off review sheets. You know with all the Ryzen coverage, not a single one of the big sites have ever pondered the question "why Ryzen is slower than an Intel Platform?"

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Just installed a Nvidia GTX-1070 Founders a few days ago......will add a waterblock to it soon.....smile.gif

Gratz ! Enjoy your new toy !
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There are not many 980TI that run better than 1070s. You have a great card. Best Graphics score I could manage on my i7-2600 rig was about 21500. Unfortunately my rig died the other day and not got up to deciding on what new one to get myself.

As a matter of interest, how are you overclocking your skylake rig? Are you just using multiplier or a combination of BCLK and multi to get the cpu/ram to 4.7/3466? If BCLK what straps are you using for the memory, what ram timings are you running with your memory and what latency are you getting with your ram?
Hello,
my CPU is running 4.8GHZ @1.38V(for benchmarks ONLY -24/7 is 4.6@1.27V) using multiplier only.My ram is 3466MHZ with CL16-16-16-36 running at 1.55V(for benchmarks ONLY -24/7 is 3200MHZ CL15-15-15-35@1.4V).I can just set the mem freq. in the bios.I could run lower timings and higher mem freq. but I dont want to push higher voltage (its safe for benchmarks but I just dont like it).

I think my 6700k could do 4.9GHZ but at around 1.45V which is pretty high and my current cpu block is complete garbage (4.8GHZ ->80C at 100%).Memory could be better too but I dont like higher volts than 1.5-1.6.I didnt put much work into ram oc.Maybe I could get better timings and freq. if I would adjust some other settings.

Edited by Minium - 4/25/17 at 9:24am
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Originally Posted by Minium 
Hello,
my CPU is running 4.8GHZ @1.38V(for benchmarks ONLY -24/7 is 4.6@1.27V) using multiplier only.My ram is 3466MHZ with CL16-16-16-36 running at 1.55V(for benchmarks ONLY -24/7 is 3200MHZ CL15-15-15-35@1.4V).I can just set the mem freq. in the bios.I could run lower timings and higher mem freq. but I dont want to push higher voltage (its safe for benchmarks but I just dont like it).

I think my 6700k could do 4.9GHZ but at around 1.45V which is pretty high and my current cpu block is complete garbage (4.8GHZ ->80C at 100%).Memory could be better too but I dont like higher volts than 1.5-1.6.I didnt put much work into ram oc.Maybe I could get better timings and freq. if I would adjust some other settings.

4.8Ghz for a 6700K is great going. did you delid the chip?

 

45ns is nice low memory latency. Rather than looking for fastest memory clocks, you should try tuning for the best balance of frequency and lowest latency, if you are not already doing it. Lower latencies directly relates to the the balance of CPU/GPU performance. FS combined score and gaming FPS performance improve in line with reduced memory latency. Using a lower memory strap @40ns could actually give you better scores that 3466@46ns for example. You may even find that with even lower latency, you can clock the CPU at 4.7Ghz, reduce the voltage and temps slightly and get similar scores

 

higher Bclk/ lower multiplier adjustments may also be worthg experimenting with to help with improving latency/memory performance. BCLK up to 104-105Mhz should not hurt anything.

 

The higher memory latency and immature memory support is the reason that Ryzen is under performing Intel in the 3D graphics benchmarks.

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Originally Posted by gtbtk View Post

4.8Ghz for a 6700K is great going. did you delid the chip?

45ns is nice low memory latency. Rather than looking for fastest memory clocks, you should try tuning for the best balance of frequency and lowest latency, if you are not already doing it. Lower latencies directly relates to the the balance of CPU/GPU performance. FS combined score and gaming FPS performance improve in line with reduced memory latency. Using a lower memory strap @40ns could actually give you better scores that 3466@46ns for example. You may even find that with even lower latency, you can clock the CPU at 4.7Ghz, reduce the voltage and temps slightly and get similar scores

higher Bclk/ lower multiplier adjustments may also be worthg experimenting with to help with improving latency/memory performance. BCLK up to 104-105Mhz should not hurt anything.

The higher memory latency and immature memory support is the reason that Ryzen is under performing Intel in the 3D graphics benchmarks.
Not deliddet-Will do it soon.
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