Originally Posted by Skyblaze
Originally Posted by gtbtk
the memory controller is actually on the CPU die. the MB only has the electrical connections between the CPU socket to the ram so maybe the pins in the socket are bent or there is some dust/debris in the slot. a can of compressed air may be able to blow them out. Dual channel will give you better performance than single channel
I have never used an Asrock board so I am not familiar with the specific quirks. The VCCIO voltage in the bios is the one that helps fortify the memory controller. Increasing that from 1.05 to 1.1 may help you get the ram running faster. It also helps improve stability of the PCIe controller for overclocking GPUs.
You should be able to increase bclk to 103 - 104mhz and not change anything else. That will give you 4532Mhz on the cpu and 2060Mhz memory at 103BCLK. If it wont boot, try dropping the multiplier to 43 and trying again. x44 multi on those chips is not right at the ragged edge so I would be surprised if it does have too many problems. If it starts giving whea BSOD, increase vcore voltage slightly.
I have been wanting to upgrade mine too. The fact that my system it now makes PSUs go bang when you turn it on has forced the matter. I have been really considering a Ryzen system. I was originally thinking R7 but now I think an R5 6 core would be a better buy for my needs. The current Intel x99 broadwell-e products are now overpriced for the performance you can get out of them and I think that 4 core chips, even though they offer better single core performance, will be pushed aside by 6 core chips in the next year anyway.
I know I looked extensively into the issue but I was and still am afraid to actually pull the CPU out of the socket now in fear to make the problem worse as I have no idea how the state of the pins is and I rather have a working Single Channel system than trying to fix it and having to buy a new system right now.
Thanks for the tip, first I'll try what Zipper17 suggested though, it sounds like the problem is quite similar to mine. Interesting on the baseclock though, I'll definitely try that, I have more than enough experience with Ivy Bridge stability-testing by now.
That doesn't sound good on your system alright, I hope it still works for you for a while. I thought about Ryzen too but I'm not sure if they are for me, I definitely want a improvement on IPC single-clock performance along with more cores and from what I read AMD made huge strides there but in the end that's an area where Intel is still better at. Is Ryzen beating Ivy Bridge on IPC performance? I really hope Intel is forced to drop prices on their six-cores, around 300€ by the end of the year and I would bite, although I doubt that will happen.
I wasn't talking about the CPU socket having dust in it. I assume the CPU went in when the board was new so no way for the dust to get in there. I was talking about the memory slots themselves.
If you are going to make changes in the bios. If you haven't done it yet, save your current settings as a profile. if things mess up, you can just reload the original settings.
My system is dead. the board has formed a short circuit for some reason. It has now killed 4 platinum PSUs so I wont try again without a different motherboard in it. If i can find a cheap used z68 or z77 board, i might just swap the CPU, memory and cooler over and run that for a while. Fingers crossed that the board dying did not fry my CPU and GPU.
I am torn with Ryzen. I did own an AMD pc about 15 years ago and the performance was better than Intel in those days. The problem then was windows would add a feature that the AMD chip would not support so It always felt like a compromise. I am worried that it may be the same now. The Ryzen platform really needs to mature a bit more but I do get my jollies solving Tech problems. Ryzens problem currently is memory throughput limitations that are impacting the gaming performance
Ryzen actually performs better than the equivalent Intel CPU in areas that don't hammer the memory sub system. They are having similar challenges getting DDR4 working well that X99 had when it was launched. Latency is a bit high and some people are having trouble getting memory trained to run at 3200Mhz but that is more about the immaturity of the platform bios revisions. There are guys with 3600Mhz ram running and memory latency is down from 100ns at launch to 60ns but still another 20ns to go to be comparable with Intel memory latency.
The Ryzen SOC design architecture is much more sensitive to memory speed than the Intel architecture so It will take it a while but I am sure that performance will improve further. A new microcode/bios is due out soon and that is supposed to improve memory support significantly, hopefully allowing tighter Ram timings. I'm sure that It will get there eventually. I was planning on waiting for it to mature another couple of months before deciding to jump in or not but this hardware failure may have forced my hand.