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@ Blackfyre

Could you please show the powerconsumption/TDP that gpu z is showing at max, when your card is overclocked?

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http://i.imgur.com/phmKP8F.jpg

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Originally Posted by Frutek View Post

MSI Gaming X has both that you need



memory chips and VRM are covered with plate already.


That's what I'm eyeing.

If anyone puts an AIO on an MSI card, let us know how it goes. Can you fit the AIO while leaving the VRAM plate on? I'm thinking about dropping a 120mm rad onto one of these GTX 1070s.
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It's the same idea with overclocking a proc on a lower end motherboard and a motherboard meant for overclocking. of COURSE you'll get a nicer overclock with the motherboard that is meant for overclocking.

Err, hold on, haha. Any Z170/Z97/Z87 motherboard will overclock a CPU to just about the same level. This has been tested time and time again; Silicon Lottery (which bins hundreds of CPUs, maybe thousands by now) has also reaffirmed this: the motherboard will not change your overclock in the slightest....unless you were going on LN2.

GPUs, though, I think are a totally different story. Someone floated an interesting point: maybe one reason all these cards are maxing out at 2050MHz more often than 2100MHz: EVGA, MSI, et al. are binning those cards (and thus not selling them now) for their Lightning, Classified, HOF LE, etc. cards.
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Err, hold on, haha. Any Z170/Z97/Z87 motherboard will overclock a CPU to just about the same level. This has been tested time and time again; Silicon Lottery (which bins hundreds of CPUs, maybe thousands by now) has also reaffirmed this: the motherboard will not change your overclock in the slightest....unless you were going on LN2.

GPUs, though, I think are a totally different story. Someone floated an interesting point: maybe one reason all these cards are maxing out at 2050MHz more often than 2100MHz: EVGA, MSI, et al. are binning those cards (and thus not selling them now) for their Lightning, Classified, HOF LE, etc. cards.


I had meant Z170 compared to a H170 or Q170 - and when you do that comparison.... overclocks will definitely change.

and also, I do not believe those companies will dump the resources into going that route simply because they are waiting for the 1080Ti to be released. Ever head of an MSI 980 (non-ti) Lightning? Me neither. That's because the Ti's will be for the big big cards.

And i'm pretty sure at that point, binning 1070s isn't relate-able to them binning 1080s for the Ti's. I don't think that's possible when the Ti is such a jump from a normal card. Nvidia will have to manufacture them before they could even be binned.

At which point - in my case, the Amp Extreme is Zotac's highest end revision card. I fully expected them to release just the AMP version, but they went forward and released the Amp Extreme. Which is exactly why I went for it. It was the only card that went toe to toe with the Kingpin back when the 980ti's we're the newest things out.
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That's what I'm eyeing.

If anyone puts an AIO on an MSI card, let us know how it goes. Can you fit the AIO while leaving the VRAM plate on? I'm thinking about dropping a 120mm rad onto one of these GTX 1070s.
Err, hold on, haha. Any Z170/Z97/Z87 motherboard will overclock a CPU to just about the same level. This has been tested time and time again; Silicon Lottery (which bins hundreds of CPUs, maybe thousands by now) has also reaffirmed this: the motherboard will not change your overclock in the slightest....unless you were going on LN2.

GPUs, though, I think are a totally different story. Someone floated an interesting point: maybe one reason all these cards are maxing out at 2050MHz more often than 2100MHz: EVGA, MSI, et al. are binning those cards (and thus not selling them now) for their Lightning, Classified, HOF LE, etc. cards.

Some people already have done that - http://www.overclock.net/t/1487012/official-nzxt-kraken-g10-owners-club/5490_30#post_25277269
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I had meant Z170 compared to a H170 or Q170 - and when you do that comparison.... overclocks will definitely change.

and also, I do not believe those companies will dump the resources into going that route simply because they are waiting for the 1080Ti to be released. Ever head of an MSI 980 (non-ti) Lightning? Me neither. That's because the Ti's will be for the big big cards.

And i'm pretty sure at that point, binning 1070s isn't relate-able to them binning 1080s for the Ti's. I don't think that's possible when the Ti is such a jump from a normal card. Nvidia will have to manufacture them before they could even be binned.

At which point - in my case, the Amp Extreme is Zotac's highest end revision card. I fully expected them to release just the AMP version, but they went forward and released the Amp Extreme. Which is exactly why I went for it. It was the only card that went toe to toe with the Kingpin back when the 980ti's we're the newest things out.

Ohhh, haha. I understand. Yes. In my mind, I didn't even think about H170 or Q170 as an option.

Err, no. Not the Ti. But, within the GTX 1070 lineup: the STRIX, your Amp Extreme, etc. Why would EVGA let out a 2100MHz GTX 1070 as just a SC edition? They'd lose $50-100 (depending on markup) if they didn't make it a FTW or FTW+ card.
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Some people already have done that - http://www.overclock.net/t/1487012/official-nzxt-kraken-g10-owners-club/5490_30#post_25277269

Shucks, thought I quoted this. Thank you! I'll give these a nice long read.
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Ohhh, haha. I understand. Yes. In my mind, I didn't even think about H170 or Q170 as an option.

Err, no. Not the Ti. But, within the GTX 1070 lineup: the STRIX, your Amp Extreme, etc. Why would EVGA let out a 2100MHz GTX 1070 as just a SC edition? They'd lose $50-100 (depending on markup) if they didn't make it a FTW or FTW+ card.
Shucks, thought I quoted this. Thank you! I'll give these a nice long read.


Well, that should be the question of the year in regards to any of these AIB releases. Every AIB card is clocking around the exact same frequencies. Because they are all reference design albeit with different phase layouts....and they're all charging different prices for different levels of their AIB cards. EVGA is just doing the same as everyone else. Their cards just happen to normally be a bit more expensive than others - and blame that on the name recognition.
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Some people already have done that - http://www.overclock.net/t/1487012/official-nzxt-kraken-g10-owners-club/5490_30#post_25277269
Wow. With those heatsink plates, the MSI on AIO looks fantastic.

Too bad it's not really helping performance. I see in those screenshots hes just barely maintaining 2Ghz. Seems to be the limit on these cards no matter what.

Its a bit disappointing to see there's pretty much zero difference in performance capability regardless of manufacturer or cooling configuration.
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Originally Posted by ikjadoon View Post

That's what I'm eyeing.

If anyone puts an AIO on an MSI card, let us know how it goes. Can you fit the AIO while leaving the VRAM plate on? I'm thinking about dropping a 120mm rad onto one of these GTX 1070s.
Err, hold on, haha. Any Z170/Z97/Z87 motherboard will overclock a CPU to just about the same level. This has been tested time and time again; Silicon Lottery (which bins hundreds of CPUs, maybe thousands by now) has also reaffirmed this: the motherboard will not change your overclock in the slightest....unless you were going on LN2.

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I am putting my Alphacool HF-14 universal gpu block on my MSI Gaming 1070 this weekend (fingers crossed). i will let you know if I run into any backplate/frontplate/block mounting issues.
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