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All depends on what workloads you were giving it. There will be those that will want to push stability to the limits with Prime, and other intensive AVX 2.0 application

Well, specially for that Intel actually offers a frequency offset for AVX2.0 workloads.
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My i7-6950X just came in this morning...going to see how much it likes my ASRock X99E-iTX and NCase M1...wink.gif


Report back how much better it was than OCd 1680v3, please.
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Both these reviews are using Cinebench 11.5 instead of Cinebench 15... whats the reason for that?
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drool.gif Let's see if you can get this thing past 4.5GHz.

Highly unlikely, given the small case and modest water cooler I use
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Well, specially for that Intel actually offers a frequency offset for AVX2.0 workloads.
Report back how much better it was than OCd 1680v3, please.

I didn't get around to overclocking the E5-1680 V3 yet. Been too busy...wink.gif
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Both these reviews are using Cinebench 11.5 instead of Cinebench 15... whats the reason for that?

Probably to compare much older chips to it that were never run under Cinebench 15...
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Is this comment true?
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The 10-core Broadwell-E chip is simply the full 10-core Broadwell-EP server chip relabeled and repurposed as a high-end processor.

http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/06/03/the-economics-of-intel-corporations-broadwell-e.aspx
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Big deal, it's called the Xeon chips, yes there has been Xeon 10 cores for a while on Sandy Bridge, Ivy, Haswell, and so on.

i7 6950x is just the first chip that happens to be 10 cores and sold directly to consumer HEDT. Albeit at kidney prices.

Besides, that site sucks.
     
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Hey but gold has been used for the packaging, hence the price ! (seriously, for that price, go Xeon, unless benching is your primary profession)
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At this point, we are waiting for AMD to save us from BOTH Intel and Nvidia. What a world we live in.

$1089 6900k, $1723 i7-6950X

$450 1070, $700 1080.

Current situation reminds me of world war 2. AMD is nazi germany, intel is the soviet union and nvidia is the western allies. Amd is fighting a 2 front war where the eastern front (cpu) is a slaughterfest being pushed back by the immense manpower of the soviet union (intel). On the western front (nvidia), things arent so bad as germany (amd) can put up a fight against the western allies (nvidia). Funny how it alligns up so nicely. Unfortunately if history proves itself true and AMD fails and is crumbled by the allied major powers.
    
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Big deal, it's called the Xeon chips, yes there has been Xeon 10 cores for a while on Sandy Bridge, Ivy, Haswell, and so on.

i7 6950x is just the first chip that happens to be 10 cores and sold directly to consumer HEDT. Albeit at kidney prices.

Besides, that site sucks.

The i7-6950X when overclocked to 4.2-4.3GHz is squarely in the performance realm of a 16-core Xeon...without the single threaded performance penalty. It's definitely worth it's price, as far as I'm concerned.

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Hey but gold has been used for the packaging, hence the price ! (seriously, for that price, go Xeon, unless benching is your primary profession)

The Xeons are clocked dog slow, running at a ridiculously low clock speed and are hard locked, leaving no way to correct the low single-threaded performamce. The only Xeons that'll compete one-on-one with an overclocked i7-6950X are 16-core and up processors...and they cost MUCH more than the i7-6950X does.wink.gif
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The i7-6950X when overclocked to 4.2-4.3GHz is squarely in the performance realm of a 16-core Xeon...without the single threaded performance penalty. It's definitely worth it's price, as far as I'm concerned.
The Xeons are clocked dog slow, running at a ridiculously low clock speed and are hard locked, leaving no way to correct the low single-threaded performamce. The only Xeons that'll compete one-on-one with an overclocked i7-6950X are 16-core and up processors...and they cost MUCH more than the i7-6950X does.wink.gif

Still....

In the Westmere, SB, and IB era, the $999 parts were always overpriced six cores.

Around Haswell-E, they finally put in the 8 core part for the same price as previous extreme hexacores, of course i bought into it, it helps that Microcenter took $100 off it too.

But now, yes a 10 core, great. only problem, it's $1700.

I'm just saying, that's a whole decent hexacore Haswell-e decent PC by there by itself. or that $700 could go to a nice motherboard or something, like I did for 5960x and Rampage V extreme.

All im saying is, for me, I can't justify it.

I used to remember upgrading CPUs like Phenom II 720 tri core to Phenom 1090t for like $270, yea it wasn't an i7 980x back in the day but that was decent CPU power for $270 for me.

Then it was a 3930k, for $600 I think, twice the perf of my previous 1090t, but the price went up there.

Again, $900 for the 5960x, and even then, going from a 3930k it was probably 60% better MT i think?

So, yea, I stop here now. Until AMD Zen brings me 10 core or something, I wouldn't even care if it was Ivy Bridge IPC if it brings the ridiculous $1700 price down to somewhere more like $800ish. These are 14nm parts, Intel just wants their insane profit margins per mm of die space.
     
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Is this comment true?
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The 10-core Broadwell-E chip is simply the full 10-core Broadwell-EP server chip relabeled and repurposed as a high-end processor.

http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/06/03/the-economics-of-intel-corporations-broadwell-e.aspx

Whats a "Xeon" and what isn't. Its been a fine line between the -E and -EP for years now for sure. The main difference is ECC for xeons and unlocked for -E. Effectively, they can take any -EP 2011v3 xeon ship, including the 22 core version, and unlock it and strip the qpi and etc and call it a -E to compete with AMD. looks like zen forced intel's hand with the 6950x. Not quite the competition most and fans were hoping for huh. wink.gif
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