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post #21 of 128
TIll now 1080´s have the 1,25v problem if they hit 1,25v they just getting isntable.
BUT the test from Computerbase was pretty Bad they didnt increased the Voltage At all they let it at Stock and the Stock Voltage is Below 1,25v, thats why they only oc´ed this badly.
PC Games Hardware did it better with Founders (but switched cooler) and hitted easily 2,1ghz and without powerlimit they could go higher.
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Wasn't the STRIX 980Ti also plagued with high temperatures? And I think that one too was made with the new 'No Humans, All Robotics" Auto Extreme manufacturing process just like this one?

Maybe the robots aren't so great. Or maybe Asus is just riding their name and not trying anymore.

Their software is just garbage. The card would overclock properly if it wasn't unnecessary locked down, be it by Nvidia or by Asus.
GPU Tweak lets you "change" more settings then you can actually change. Meaning, for example, memory voltage might appear to be tweakable but the voltage isn't actually applied.
Edited by Takla - 5/31/16 at 6:36am
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When are you people going to realize the 1080 had to be tuned for high clocks from the fab because clock for clock Pascal is SLOWER than Maxwell. There is no more overclocking left in the process. No cooler, no bios or voltage increase is going to change that.
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Big issue with the cooler isn't the # of heatpipes that make contact with the die but the machining...

Blame gamers for the direct contact heatpipes approach. All heatpipes should be soldered to a badass slab of metal for better heat transmission. In fact you will be hard pressed to find a high end CPU cooler with the direct contact heatpipes.
post #25 of 128
So it seems the race to the single digital nm is coming at the cost of user adjustability? We(AiB or Nvidia or AMD) know it will run at this speed. We can not or will not guarantee anything else.
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Funny, I was yelled down for mentioning this exact issue in the GTX 1080 reviews thread. You can throw as much software modifiers at a GPU as you want but if the BIOS itself looks at those inputs and says "screw that!", they really don't make one lick of a difference. Be it power or voltage, the Pascal cores are locked down harder than Fort Knox and overclocking above the 2100MHz mark will take some serious modifications and / or epic sized balls by a board partner who is willing to risk resulting RMA's.

Personally, I think this is a byproduct of the finer manufacturing process being used on Pascal and (soon) Polaris. The margin of error is now excessively small so safeguards are being put in place to the detriment of overclockers.
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Still waiting on a benchmark comparison between all AiBs... but not expecting much. What's the point of more power phases if clocks remain the same? Does it increase OC stability?

Marketing. Marketing. Marketing.
post #27 of 128
There isn't a "1.25v problem" It's jiust what the cards can handle. These are already clocked very high by Nvidia themselfs.
Their ways of clocking cards low to give people the feeling they can OC it alot was no option because they wanted the 1080 to look faster.

See it as a 980 TI being sold with 1400mhz stock boost clock instead of 1075mhz. The reference 1080 is already close to the limit, no VRMS or 50+10 phase system can counter that
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Funny, I was yelled down for mentioning this exact issue in the GTX 1080 reviews thread. You can throw as much software modifiers at a GPU as you want but if the BIOS itself looks at those inputs and says "screw that!", they really don't make one lick of a difference. Be it power or voltage, the Pascal cores are locked down harder than Fort Knox and overclocking above the 2100MHz mark will take some serious modifications and / or epic sized balls by a board partner who is willing to risk resulting RMA's.

Any way for you to test removing the power limit in hardware with some liquid metal over the resistors? It can easily be wiped away afterward. But a test with no power limits and fans cranked to max would be nice to see what these cards actually do when some limits are removed.
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There isn't a "1.25v problem" It's jiust what the cards can handle. These are already clocked very high by Nvidia themselfs.
Their ways of clocking cards low to give people the feeling they can OC it alot was no option because they wanted the 1080 to look faster.

See it as a 980 TI being sold with 1400mhz stock boost clock instead of 1075mhz. The reference 1080 is already close to the limit, no VRMS or 50+10 phase system can counter that
There absolutely is 1.25v limit, cause cards cant handle higher voltage even when cooled with LN2. +1.25v results instant crash, like it is limited by hardware or die it self. It might be Nvidia's own implement, no one knows.
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Any way for you to test removing the power limit in hardware with some liquid metal over the resistors? It can easily be wiped away afterward. But a test with no power limits and fans cranked to max would be nice to see what these cards actually do when some limits are removed.

I bought a card for additional testing like this so I don't have to offer any of my manufacturer-provided samples up to the overclocking Gods....

Should be here next week. thumb.gif
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