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Where are you guys all getting your chips? The 6900k has been sold out everywhere I check! Newegg has some third parties selling, but obviously at a silly markup.

For whatever reason, this place got a ****load of stock. I had never heard of them but they are a google trusted store so I got my 6850k there (although I think they are now sold out of those).

http://www.nothingbutsavings.com/Search/6900k?query=6900k
I've heard of this place and know several that have purchased from them without any issues so I would say you are good. As for their stock if I remember correctly they are a small version of like a jet.com they personally don't carry stock but instead are a third party that sells for other companies In various places. Don't quote me on this but I believe it's correct.


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Feel bad? You're joking right? The thing about the i7-6950X is that it helps bridge the gap between single threaded needs AND multi threaded needs. This chip can do BOTH when overclocked. Why force someone to choose between a single threaded machine and a multi threaded one?? I personally want both...in the same machine! Intel isn't charging more for the 6 and 8 core processors, but has simply made a premium SKU avsilable to those who want/need/can afford one and is charging a premium price for it.

I think the i7-6950X is a great SKU...good single threaded performance and the rough equivalent multi threaded performance of a 16-core Xeon....all under one roof. It's a sorely needed ultra premium SKU for those that want it. Worth $1700?? Most definitely...wink.gif Intel isn't going to (nor should it) give away 16-core Xeon caliber performance for $1K. Those who don't need such a chip have many K SKUs from which to choose at many different price points.

If Xeons weren't hard locked, it wouldn't matter...one could negate the single threaded performance penalty by overclocking. But the i7-6950X offers the best available multi threaded performance that doesn't force you to make the huge single threaded compromise that a locked Xeon does.
Why? The 6 and 8 cores haven't changed in price. If Intel had jacked their price up, I could understand your "rip off consumers" argument, but all they are offering here is an ultra premium SKU for those that want it that sits higher on the SKU stack. I commend them for this SKU. Many people have been begging them for such a SKU for a very long time.
As I've said before, the i7-6950X is there to provide the best of both worlds...excellent single AND multi threaded performance. If you don't need the multi threaded performance it offers, buy a K SKU! They are largely unchanged in price. The reason why these chips sell is...that people want and need them!! I want top notch single threaded performance without being forced to give up multi threaded potential and I'm willing to pay a premium to get that ability. I'm happy the i7-6950X is here and hope it sells well so Intel continues to release premium performance parts in the future. My only wish is that they maintain the useful Xeon features like ECC and dual CPU capability in the future...for the price, they should be enabled.

You be trollin'?
Intel sells the same exact 10 cores BW-E Xeon for $999..
Just because they unlock the multiplier, they want rip another $700 from consumers? Makes no fair sense...was this done before? Why should we accept it now..
I hope not many share your views. There is nothing ultra premium about 6950X, it is just an unlocked Xeon ripoff cause Intel can.
6 and 8 cores BW-E actually went up in prices over HW-E equivalents, but not the point.
The point is that, we expect to see technology improve year on year, buying yester-year premium hardware at mainstream prices. thumb.gif
    
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I had made plans to buy the 6950x by selling my chip/ram/mobo to a family member. after doing a lot of soul searching, I realized that I just wasn't willing to pay that much for 2 extra cores. am I upset with intel? no, I just decided to move on by buying another 5960x, which I will be picking up from MC later today, and, using the $600 I saved on an extra 1080 for sli.If something is out of my price range, or, I think that the price is too high, I just don't buy it. I see no reason to get upset, I just move on to something else. I learned early in life, never let them see you sweat.I refuse to sweat intel, nVidia or AMD for anything.. smile.gif too many of you wear your hearts on your sleeves...fact is, everything that we buy as far as building a pc, is overpriced, water cooling, mechanical keyboards, cases, etc., etc., but, we buy it, even though we might not even need it. it is what it is..
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You be trollin'?
Intel sells the same exact 10 cores BW-E Xeon for $999..
Just because they unlock the multiplier, they want rip another $700 from consumers? Makes no fair sense...was this done before? Why should we accept it now..
I hope not many share your views. There is nothing ultra premium about 6950X, it is just an unlocked Xeon ripoff cause Intel can.
6 and 8 cores BW-E actually went up in prices over HW-E equivalents, but not the point.
The point is that, we expect to see technology improve year on year, buying yester-year premium hardware at mainstream prices. thumb.gif

Its easy, if you don't like something don't buy it, no need to rant about it, nobody is forcing you or anyone else to buy it. thumb.gif
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You be trollin'?
Intel sells the same exact 10 cores BW-E Xeon for $999..
Just because they unlock the multiplier, they want rip another $700 from consumers? Makes no fair sense...was this done before? Why should we accept it now..
I hope not many share your views. There is nothing ultra premium about 6950X, it is just an unlocked Xeon ripoff cause Intel can.
6 and 8 cores BW-E actually went up in prices over HW-E equivalents, but not the point.
The point is that, we expect to see technology improve year on year, buying yester-year premium hardware at mainstream prices. thumb.gif

Trolling? No. The i7-6950X is also clocked much higher at default than the $999 Xeon, which is why it's priced much higher. You say that $700 is too expensive a price to pay for an unlocked multiplier? I'd gladly pay double that price premium on top of the MSRP of the 22-core if they were to offer an unlocked 22-core Xeon. The i7-6950X is indeed an ultra premium part as it sits atop the SKU stack. "An unlocked Xeon ripoff because they can?" No, it's an unlocked, low volume processor that they've offered because many others, including myself, have been asking for it. We need the extra performance and the $700 price premium for the chip is FAR cheaper than building a high end single threaded machine and a separate high end multi threaded machine. We're willing to pay more for that convenience. If there was an unlocked 12-core for $2500, I'd be all over it too. The performance that the i7-6950X offers when overclocked is near that of a 16-core Xeon, to say nothing of the fact that it maintains excellent single threaded performance while doing so. Given the current price of a 16-core Xeon, I consider the i7-6950X to be easily worth its asking price.

You may "expect to see technology improve year on year" but Intel doesn't increase consumer core counts often, especially not more than once in a platform's life. They do know, however, that people want and need extra multi threaded performance with an unlocked processor, so by releasing the i7-6950X they are providing the desired performance, but with a price premium. Basically, they're permitting earlier access to the type of chip that would otherwise come out later down the road at a cheaper price. As one of the people who want and need this performance now, I'm incredibly happy Intel has released a part that better suits my needs, and don't mind paying a premium for it. I've already purchased one of them and will very likely purchase a second as well. If these chips supported dual CPU operation and ECC, I'd buy five of them.
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For whatever reason, this place got a ****load of stock. I had never heard of them but they are a google trusted store so I got my 6850k there (although I think they are now sold out of those).

http://www.nothingbutsavings.com/Search/6900k?query=6900k

What's interesting is that this site is the 3rd party seller on Newegg charging 200$ more than the price they are charging in the link you sent. I guess it's a Newegg "tax" or maybe they are just trying to drive business directly to their site?

Newegg has reviews on them, and while most are good, apparently their RMA process is abysmal. Not something I would want for a 1100$ processor, yeah? Going to do some more research on it in the meantime.

Thank you for the heads up on the stock!
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Just got back from MC. bought a new 5960x. turned out, it wasn't new. cracks on the top and bottom where the mobo socket clamps. I am pissed right now...mad.gif
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Just got back from MC. bought a new 5960x. turned out, it wasn't new. cracks on the top and bottom where the mobo socket clamps. I am pissed right now...mad.gif

Was the box Factory Sealed when you bought it? Why not sell your existing i7-5960X (it looks like a decent clocker) and put the proceeds toward an i7-6950X? You'd probably still get $700-800 for your chip, making the difference about the same as the amount you just spent on that used 5960X.
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Was the box Factory Sealed when you bought it? Why not sell your existing i7-5960X (it looks like a decent clocker) and put the proceeds toward an i7-6950X? You'd probably still get $700-800 for your chip, making the difference about the same as the amount you just spent on that used 5960X.
Seal was opened, I didn't check in store. I ordered it online. picked it up today, looked at the box in the car home.didn't really think much of it. I have bought a lot of stuff from them. got home, opened the box, bam, busted looking chip. I will be going off in MC tomorrow...
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Seal was opened, I didn't check in store. I ordered it online. picked it up today, looked at the box in the car home.didn't really think much of it. I have bought a lot of stuff from them. got home, opened the box, bam, busted looking chip. I will be going off in MC tomorrow...

Micro Center is awesome, but they can get a little sketchy in the "open box" items area. Sorry to hear about your luck and hope that the trip isn't too far.
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