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Use your mouse. Intel cpus never degraded like that, I don't know what you see every HEDT generation.

My 6950X has had no degradation. I haven't seen a single claim is degradation is this entire thread either. I'd point to user error of some sort for the above link, or terribly bad luck with a defective CPU.
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My 6950X has had no degradation. I haven't seen a single claim is degradation is this entire thread either. I'd point to user error of some sort for the above link, or terribly bad luck with a defective CPU.
Two CPUs with two different reviewers albeit working on the same site. Also a retailer has confirmed the degradation issue.
It is very good that your is OK thumb.gif Congrats.
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

if there's a specific post you want to point out right click on the post nukmber in the thread and post that link. like: https://hardforum.com/threads/msi-x99a-xpower-gaming-titanium-lga2011-v3-review-h.1906302/#post-1042447704
lol- buy the tuning plan. And I see this same post every HEDT generation. This generation... I'd bet each of these guys is not controlling vdroop in VCCIN. tongue.gif
When not using ATCT, My bios is set to lower frequency with AVX. 44-> 42, 43->41 etc. At least with my sample, -2 usual;ly has enough volts to cover AVX as long as the temps don't skyrocket. redface.gif

I can imagine there could be some misadventure with Prime95 and AVX offset. If a given CPU needs 1.35V for 4.3Ghz, and that's set via an Adaptive or manual Vcore, 1.35V will be applied to the AVX offset ratio also, and that's too high for Prime95. That type of stuff will degrade a CPU because the current consumed by the processor does not change by enough with a 200~300MHz frequency reduction - voltage needs to be decreased for a significant change in current.

Intel do not use the AVX offset just to drop the multiplier ratio, they use it to drop Vcore and the mechanism works in conjunction with the offset VID stack. That's how the feature is designed to be used. If one overclocks the system, then AVX offset with an adaptive or manual voltage of 1.35V is only suitable for loads similar or less aggressive than Handbrake, which is far more moderate than Prime.
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Hi Raja smile.gif
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Originally Posted by kingofsorrow View Post

Use your mouse ffs. Intel cpus never degraded like that, I don't know what you see every HEDT generation.

No you're right, they haven't. So not sure why you are so quick to take what is being said in that thread as gospel smile.gif

I've asked Dan in the thread what voltage modes were being used whilst stressing (It's already obvious he's using either adaptive or manual).
Edited by Silent Scone - 8/5/16 at 11:43am
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Use your mouse. Intel cpus never degraded like that, I don't know what you see every HEDT generation.
lol - to chase a post by you? For what reason do you post such gibberish? And for comparison sake, I know of a dozen guys who have fried IBEs and HWEs... Oh.. wait, sorry to bother you with facts.
And frankly, who cares if someone degraded cpu - lol, don't ;t need to look to any other site to find that.
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I can imagine there could be some misadventure with Prime95 and AVX offset. If a given CPU needs 1.35V for 4.3Ghz, and that's set via an Adaptive or manual Vcore, 1.35V will be applied to the AVX offset ratio also, and that's too high for Prime95. That type of stuff will degrade a CPU because the current consumed by the processor does not change by enough with a 200~300MHz frequency reduction - voltage needs to be decreased for a significant change in current.
Intel do not use the AVX offset just to drop the multiplier ratio, they use it to drop Vcore and the mechanism works in conjunction with the offset VID stack. That's how the feature is designed to be used. If one overclocks the system, then AVX offset with an adaptive or manual voltage of 1.35V is only suitable for loads similar or less aggressive than Handbrake, which is far more moderate than Prime.
Lol - you don't have to imagine anything.. folks here are doing it too often. IMO, The key here is whether one brutalizes their CPU with stress tests outta the cretaceous period. So, if I'm not running the ATCT (mostly when benching) my selection of the AVX offset incorporates whether or not the down clock will allow for stability and reasonable temperatures for the short period of time needed.
But no doubt, hammering a 10 core with p95, OCCT or Linux for hours and hours, or even RB for that matter, at high clocks and voltage... well, just leads to more stability testing in a self inflicted injury loop. wink.gif

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No you're right, they haven't. So not sure why you are so quick to take what is being said in that thread as gospel smile.gif
Unfortunately, too many folks believe everything they read on the internet. wait.. wut? blinksmiley.gif
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Oddly enough, voltages over 1.30V on HW-E with Prime95 caused degradation, also. wink.gif
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lol - to chase a post by a troll such as you? For what reason do you post such gibberish? And for comparison sake, I know of a dozen guys who have fried IBEs and HWEs... Oh.. wait, sorry to bother you with facts.
And frankly, whofkn cares if someone degraded cpu - lol, don't ;t need to look to any other site to find that.
Lol - you don't have to imagine anything.. folks here are doing it too often. IMO, The key here is whether one brutalizes their CPU with stress tests outta the cretaceous period. So, if I'm not running the ATCT (mostly when benching) my selection of the AVX offset incorporates whether or not the down clock will allow for stability and reasonable temperatures for the short period of time needed.
But no doubt, hammering a 10 core with p95, OCCT or Linux for hours and hours, or even RB for that matter, at high clocks and voltage... well, just leads to more stability testing in a self inflicted injury loop. wink.gif
Unfortunately, too many folks believe everything they read on the internet. wait.. wut? blinksmiley.gif
Sorry if my posted offended you in anyway I didn't mean to offend you or cause pain. Do you think I should delete it?
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Sorry if my posted offended you in anyway I didn't mean to offend you or cause pain. Do you think I should delete it?
no offense taken. Just replying "in-kind".
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I cannot get GSAT to run anymore with RVE10 latest BIOS and 6950X. Once it resumes from the "power spike" phase, it just stays there. OS is still running normally...just doing nothing.

It worked fine on 6900K+R5E. Can't tell if I ran it with 6900K+RVE10 and older BIOS.

Similar like this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1569364/official-skylake-haswell-e-broadwell-e-24-7-ddr4-memory-stability-thread/900#post_24967377

It also does it at bare stock...I have tried to install the OS too and install chipset driver (sorry I can't recall now what that was called in Linux).

This is where I am currently, I guess this result falls in line with others?


Edited by xarot - 8/6/16 at 1:12am
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