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Guys,
2 days ago I swapped my Asrock X99 Extreme 4 board for an Asus X99-A II. The Asrock was lacking OC socket, looked quite cheap and required a lot of Vcore just to reach 4GHz in AVX Linpack. That's why I bought the Asus and so far it seems that it really needs less Vcore, but my temperatures are pretty surprising.

Here's the Asrock X99 Extreme 4 (no OC socket) at 1.236v:
62-60-73-66-72-67

And here's the Asus X99-A II at just 1.210v:
68-63-81-69-80-70



Why are my Asus temperatures higher? I'm using Noctua NH-D15 with 2 Noctua fans at 1600 rpm and I thought at first that I may have messed up with the cooler. But I disassembled the PC, removed the cooler, cleaned the old thermal compound and applied a brand new MX-4. Then I re-installed the heat-sink and I'm 100% sure that it fits perfectly. Installing CPU coolers is nothing new for me, I've done that 50 times already, but the temperatures just don't seem to be normal. Is there something in the UEFI that might be set to "Auto" and applying too much voltage?

Here's my UEFI setup:
01 - http://i.imgur.com/o8qz0WT.png
02 - http://i.imgur.com/2zSQkFb.png
03 - http://i.imgur.com/kNLzJzm.png
04 - http://i.imgur.com/RjdmWFu.png
05 - http://i.imgur.com/YLGwFXe.png
06 - http://i.imgur.com/fxVHbdT.png
07 - http://i.imgur.com/7gjtHSF.png
08 - http://i.imgur.com/HAjuZ4c.png
09 - http://i.imgur.com/mb2og5X.png
10 - http://i.imgur.com/KimuBzo.png

Is there something I can set to reduce the temperatures? With the Asrock board the CPU stays nearly 8 degrees cooler despite the higher Vcore. This just doesn't make sense. Btw the GFlops on the Asrock are a bit lower, but that's just because I was watching a youtube video. That shouldn't be the reason for lower temperatures, though...
post #2522 of 7227
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Originally Posted by Zero-Cold View Post

...Is there something I can set to reduce the temperatures? ...

Ignore the temperatures, the cpu will have the same temp regardless what software is showing you.
post #2523 of 7227
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Ignore the temperatures, the cpu will have the same temp regardless what software is showing you.

The eff?

Zero... what you should ignore is this man's advice... only that.

Is your cache being over clocked? No real reason for your temps. Set everything on auto to manual voltages. See what happens.
post #2524 of 7227
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The eff?

Zero... what you should ignore is this man's advice... only that.

Is your cache being over clocked? No real reason for your temps. Set everything on auto to manual voltages. See what happens.
No, my cache is stock on both boards. The clocks I applied are absolutely the same. The PC is in the same room, with the same ambient temperature. The only difference is that I used slightly less VCore on the Asus. I don't know why is this happening.

I'll do what you said tomorrow and I'll post back. A guy told me that probably Asus applied insanely huge voltage somewhere where it reads "Auto", but it's really weird. I doubt there are a lot of settings that can have such great impact on load temperatures.
post #2525 of 7227
I'm still having issues with the system agent voltage. Last night I had a BSOD while playing No Man's Land and after entering the UEFI I noticed that the system agent voltage dropped again. The base voltage was always around 1.0v, but now the base voltage is like 0.93v! Earlier a cold boot resolved that problem, but now the base voltage always stays around that value. Of course, using a higher offset is not a big issue, the real problem is that the best core isn't stable anymore at 4.5GHz (and it was before). What do you guys think is the cause of this strange problem? I'm leaning towards a PSU issue...
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The eff?

Zero... what you should ignore is this man's advice... only that.

Is your cache being over clocked? No real reason for your temps. Set everything on auto to manual voltages. See what happens.

Sure not. There is no real temperature sensor on you cpu and it even depends on the bios configuration what you software can read. So if clock and voltage is the same, then the temperature is the same.
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Sure not. There is no real temperature sensor on you cpu and it even depends on the bios configuration what you software can read. So if clock and voltage is the same, then the temperature is the same.
Problem is, one cannot be sure that actual voltages are the same. Well, you could measure them with a multimer, but I don't have one nor I'm generally good with electricity. smile.gif
post #2528 of 7227
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Sure not. There is no real temperature sensor on you cpu and it even depends on the bios configuration what you software can read. So if clock and voltage is the same, then the temperature is the same.
That is totally correct. As long as the voltage and clock are the same, it matters not whether you have fans running, use water cooling or NO2 whatever is inventing the temperatures will figure it out and make up some likely temperatures for your cores, and add some random per core per chip type variable to make the fake temps look realistic ... rolleyes.gif
post #2529 of 7227
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There is no real temperature sensor on you cpu and it even depends on the bios configuration what you software can read.

There is a temp sensor on the CPU, but it only measures/reports delta to TJmax, which is how comparisons should be made, unless one is certain the same TJmax assumption is being used by the board/software.
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So if clock and voltage is the same, then the temperature is the same.

If clocks, volts, load, and cooling are identical, the same sample should be the same temperature, irrespective of board, this is true.

However differences in load-line calibration, board VRM, reserved voltages set by the OC socket, cooler mounting, and so on, could easily result in a modest difference.
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hi all,
is there some videos that demonstrates the gaming difference between Haswell-E, Broadwell-E and Skylake while running at the same clock speed?

I would like to see some high end GPUs running at "decent" resolution, better if in SLI.
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