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Stress testing my 6950X at the moment. Here's a RB 2 hrs @ 4.3 . Memory @ 3470 C14

HCI memtest next.


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sorry my post is a bit irrelevant, i want some serious advice about the new Asus V Rampage edition 10, the board is absolutely beautiful as i plan to buy it with an 6850k but unfortunately i read tons of reviews about it having many issues the ram not Overclocking properly, DAC failing on Win10 and drivers issues, i would be very much pleased and thankful to get someones input in the broadwell community if you have heard anything about this board, should i take a risk of buying it or not...
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Originally Posted by mbze430 View Post

uhmm my VRM Spread Strum is Enabled... ***... VCCIN is 1.830v it's not like I have crazy OC

Your VCCIN is lower than mine, you have VRM Spread enabled, what is your LLC at? If you download AI Suite 3 you can play with that stuff in windows.

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Ugh....i feel like destroying something right about now.

Stuck the brand new block on my system, installed a brand new D5 pump etc.. and it's STILL giving super high temps...

Only thing i can try now is to bend and install the PETG tubing and rigid fittings and hope that it SOMEHOW fixes something. Only other thing i can possibly think of is the radiators causing it for some reason which would cost a crap ton to replace on top of hundreds i've spent already...

Anyone have any other ideas?

I don't think PETG tubing and fittings would fix anything other than it's appearance (it's on my own wish list rolleyes.gif).

With how much rad space you have, I can only assume you have a very small delta rise in water temps. Do you have CLU liquid metal installed right now? I mean if you went that far have you lapped the CPU? You might not be getting good contact/paste spread. CLU was not worth my experience, I had none leak, I had lost 2c maybe (maybe lapping it did the trick), and it REALLY doesn't like to go on evenly, even if you coat both things nicely.

What are your temps are, what pump speed/fan speeds are we looking at? How old are the blocks, you ever open them and clean them? Is the CPU before the GPU in the loop? I really can't imagine your temps being all that bad thinking.gif



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sorry my post is a bit irrelevant, i want some serious advice about the new Asus V Rampage edition 10, the board is absolutely beautiful as i plan to buy it with an 6850k but unfortunately i read tons of reviews about it having many issues the ram not Overclocking properly, DAC failing on Win10 and drivers issues, i would be very much pleased and thankful to get someones input in the broadwell community if you have heard anything about this board, should i take a risk of buying it or not...

Reviews are reviews, and could be written by someone setting up their very first PC. RAM OCing and whatnot could be related to bios issues.

As for the DAC being finicky, I could imagine. ASUS doesn't like to hold up well to NEW audio products they release. The Xonar sound card series has a REALLY bad rep because of this. Hence the project Uni Xonar Drivers have come into existence.

Tweaktown has a nice review of that motherboard where they tear everything apart and you can have a looksy.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7764/asus-rog-rampage-edition-10-intel-x99-motherboard-review/index3.html

The external/internal DAC:

The Xonar STX:


Instead of that DAC i'd rather have a Xonar STX for some reasons....
1. The Xonar STX is compatible with UNI Xonar drivers
2. The STX is $200~ and you could get a $400 Mobo and not worry about the driver functionality.
3. STX will have the exact same audio quality (or even better if you want to play with the opamps to your liking) as they both feature LM4562's opamps and a TI TPA6120A2 amplifier from the box.
4. STX has 7.1 for in the future if you are going to get some crazy speaker set up to impress the ladies





I think the biggest difference (if any) will be the Burr Brown 1792A DAC vs the ESS SABRE DAC. Mostly what comes after the DAC will affect the sound more, and DAC's are just used for the marketing scheme mainly. I actually just bought a Xonar DX to screw around with and changed the capacitors and opamp tonight. It sounds a hell of a lot better with the capacitors being switched to some high end Nichicon Gold and Muse series capacitors. I also added some of the Wimo caps in parallel.

That only matters if you care about audio quality/DAC feature of the motherboard. I think it's kinda iffy to buy something like that especially if it's USB and has latency added on top of it.
Edited by pillowsack - 9/28/16 at 11:04pm
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Your VCCIN is lower than mine, you have VRM Spread enabled, what is your LLC at? If you download AI Suite 3 you can play with that stuff in windows.
I don't think PETG tubing and fittings would fix anything other than it's appearance (it's on my own wish list rolleyes.gif).

With how much rad space you have, I can only assume you have a very small delta rise in water temps. Do you have CLU liquid metal installed right now? I mean if you went that far have you lapped the CPU? You might not be getting good contact/paste spread. CLU was not worth my experience, I had none leak, I had lost 2c maybe (maybe lapping it did the trick), and it REALLY doesn't like to go on evenly, even if you coat both things nicely.

What are your temps are, what pump speed/fan speeds are we looking at? How old are the blocks, you ever open them and clean them? Is the CPU before the GPU in the loop? I really can't imagine your temps being all that bad thinking.gif



Like i said in the comment it's a brand new block (EK Monoblock), and a brand new D5 pump (the alphacool VPP655 version). My old block had corrosion with nickel plating flaking etc.. so i took that one out and put the new block on and got the new pump in case the old one was going out. But my temps haven't gone down at all. And yes they can be quite high, they go to 75-80C during load, whereas other people with same voltages are showing temps no more than 65C under full Prime95 type loads, and i get 75-80C with a single run of Cinebench. The reason i thought of the tubing was the possibility of there being bacterial growth in the tubing or something; or i guess it could be the rads but i washed them out as good as possible with a vinegar/water rinse etc.. and shook them up nice (did it a couple times actually). My rad space is currently a 480mm and a 360mm, i have a 420mm one that i'm not using at the moment though; that's because my GPUs aren't water cooled yet, (just bought the blocks for them today and haven't installed yet, so it's just my CPU being cooled)
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That is strange indeed. Any pics of the set up? You could try running vinegar and whatnot to clean crud out.


You have any way to measure the water temp?
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Actually, you can disable spread spectrum and then enable active frequency mode which shows right beneath, it will hide spread spectrum and the temp will be just as cool. thumb.gif

With this option, the temperatures are cooler for VRM (in load I suppose, not seen difference in idle) ?
I noticed that if this option is enabled, the spread spectrum option disappears, but remains in "disabled" ?

Thanks
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Your VCCIN is lower than mine, you have VRM Spread enabled, what is your LLC at? If you download AI Suite 3 you can play with that stuff in windows.

LLC at 5
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With this option, the temperatures are cooler for VRM (in load I suppose, not seen difference in idle) ?
I noticed that if this option is enabled, the spread spectrum option disappears, but remains in "disabled" ?

Thanks
It is also cooler at IDLE, by the same margin as it is during load. wink.gif
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LLC at 5

If the 60C you saw was at load, then I'd expect that. The mobo just has a single heatsink(and probably a back piece behind the mobo). Most of our motherboards have a heat pipe and another heatsink to dissipate more heat. You just have a single piece heatsink with no heat pipe. You have the same chokes as my board so I'm going to assume with the other parts as well, just not the extra cooling.


I think you're fine as long as you don't ride 60C+ when gaming. The only other thing I could think of is the Asus x99 Mono block from EKWB or maybe more airflow over that VRM heatsink.
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It is also cooler at IDLE, by the same margin as it is during load. wink.gif

Okay thanks, I have not seen any difference in idle (same temperature)
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