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I run min at Auto and max at 3.7 or 3.8. TGhe thing with min cache is that id must be 50% of dram speed (or = dram frequency else the system fouls). so for 3200 ram, is will automatically up the min to 1600, 3400 ram... 1700 min cache. Sooo.. the cache voltage need to be set accordingly with ram frequency.

I didn't know it
But now, if I've just set the cache min to 1800, will that be wrong?
It idles and the cache voltage too:

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^

I have one bum core. Try the per core overclocking. I have a single dog core that doesn't like anything past 4.2.

Man you saved me being stuck at 4.2ghz and spending more days fighting with my cpu so far i if i leave my core 1 at 4200 i can push rest to 4300 stable and right now testing 4400 on them looking promising at 1.4 voltages so not sure if i could push for 4.5 if this is stable that would likely need 1.45.
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Just bought 32GB G.SKILL DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34 quad channel kit.
https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820232348
I hope it works well with X99 system.
Don't ask me why I bought it. biggrin.gif. I know DDR4, be it 2400 or 3200 doesn't provide tangible performance improvements.
Maybe 3200 CL14 perform worse than 2400 CL10.

The G.SKILL will replace my Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-2400 10-12-12-28
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/dominator-platinum-series-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr4-dram-2400mhz-c10-memory-kit-cmd32gx4m4b2400c10
I will move the Corsair to Z170 system.

My only gripe is that I have to spend tedious time again with GSAT and HCI MemTest to make sure the new G.SKILL sets are stable, especially with 1T command rate. frown.gif
If any of you are already using that kit, a good starting point with VCCSA, VCCIO and vDIMM (for 1T) would be appreciated.
Edited by PowerK - 4/10/17 at 8:33pm
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Has Broadwell E overclocking improved similar to how Haswell E overclocking improved as the process matured? What is a good overclock for a 6900k
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Just bought 32GB G.SKILL DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34 quad channel kit.
https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820232348
I hope it works well with X99 system.
Don't ask me why I bought it. biggrin.gif. I know DDR4, be it 2400 or 3200 doesn't provide tangible performance improvements.
Maybe 3200 CL14 perform worse than 2400 CL10.

The G.SKILL will replace my Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-2400 10-12-12-28
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/dominator-platinum-series-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr4-dram-2400mhz-c10-memory-kit-cmd32gx4m4b2400c10
I will move the Corsair to Z170 system.

My only gripe is that I have to spend tedious time again with GSAT and HCI MemTest to make sure the new G.SKILL sets are stable, especially with 1T command rate. frown.gif
If any of you are already using that kit, a good starting point with VCCSA, VCCIO and vDIMM (for 1T) would be appreciated.

Hi, there's gonna be a nice comparison between our systems (since I also have this ram kit) and how they react and handle with different voltages.
After 1h of Gsat (on puppy Linux) I've quit testing the ram only (for a while, will re-test it on a new dedicated drive Linux Mint) and since I wasn't stable during Mass Effect Andromeda I started to stress test with Realbench avx (4h, 16gb) once again.
I ended up with these voltages for 4.3ghz, 3.6 cache and default speed ram 3200 cl14, 2T (maybe they will still be revisited): offset +235mv cache (~1.25v in full), +100mv system agent (~1.04v), 1.135v vccio and 1.35v for the ram (even if it keeps showing me more quite always).
Did a couple of hours RB yesterday evening and then I played another couple oh h MEA, all good).
This morning I'll take advantage of the chilly weather to set the pc for another 4h RB run (while I'm at work).
Will this one finish flawlessly too, then I'll start to come back to the CR 1T (without changing any voltages) thumb.gif

Let me know how is your performing OK? wink.gif
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Well, my system is acting weird on the sa voltage once again this morning
I didn't change anything from the yesterday's last setting and now is showing me less, default voltage once again, 0.975-0.987v, and also the cache is showing less, 1.228-1.235v this time.
The temps are real cool after 20' but like I said it's chilly outside (opened up the windows)
I don't understand anymore, it can't be temp related
I'm gonna let it finish the 4h RB run at any cost (and I'll see that when I'm back this afternoon), maybe some hwinfo64 reading glitches?

@Jmpboy, could this be related to some of the two "tweakers paradise" settings you pointed me out before?
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Hi, there's gonna be a nice comparison between our systems (since I also have this ram kit) and how they react and handle with different voltages.
After 1h of Gsat (on puppy Linux) I've quit testing the ram only (for a while, will re-test it on a new dedicated drive Linux Mint) and since I wasn't stable during Mass Effect Andromeda I started to stress test with Realbench avx (4h, 16gb) once again.
I ended up with these voltages for 4.3ghz, 3.6 cache and default speed ram 3200 cl14, 2T (maybe they will still be revisited): offset +235mv cache (~1.25v in full), +100mv system agent (~1.04v), 1.135v vccio and 1.35v for the ram (even if it keeps showing me more quite always).
Did a couple of hours RB yesterday evening and then I played another couple oh h MEA, all good).
This morning I'll take advantage of the chilly weather to set the pc for another 4h RB run (while I'm at work).
Will this one finish flawlessly too, then I'll start to come back to the CR 1T (without changing any voltages) thumb.gif

Let me know how is your performing OK? wink.gif
Hi arrow,
Definitely, I'll share the progress on the G.Skill memory stability when I get a chance to install them. (This weekend, I need to spend time on new Titan Xps. wink.gif )
One question. Is 1.35V VCCIO necessary? Seems very high to me.
It took me awhile to find stable settings with my 6950X + Corsair DDR4 @ 2400 10-12-12-28 1T but it needed 1.05V VCCIO. (I have not tried to lower it but I think VCCIO doesn't really affect memory stability).
What voltages does AUTO give you for VCCSA and VCCIO with this memory set ?
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Hi arrow,
Definitely, I'll share the progress on the G.Skill memory stability when I get a chance to install them. (This weekend, I need to spend time on new Titan Xps. wink.gif )
One question. Is 1.35V VCCIO necessary? Seems very high to me.
It took me awhile to find stable settings with my 6950X + Corsair DDR4 @ 2400 10-12-12-28 1T but it needed 1.05V VCCIO. (I have not tried to lower it but I think VCCIO doesn't really affect memory stability).
What voltages does AUTO give you for VCCSA and VCCIO with this memory set ?

Hi, it's 1.13v (1.135) not 1.35v biggrin.gif
Also the Auto for the Xmp with this ram kit (and the same with my old 3600 cl17 dual channel kit) are way higher, 1.25v vccio but incredibly 1.39v for the system agent.
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Hi, it's 1.13v (1.135) not 1.35v biggrin.gif
Also the Auto for the Xmp with this ram kit (and the same with my old 3600 cl17 dual channel kit) are way higher, 1.25v vccio but incredibly 1.39v for the system agent.
Ah... sorry. My bad. 1.13V for VCCIO seems ok.
With that being said, if you specifically aim for RealBench stability, you might find your system unstable in other scenarios, in my humble opinion.
When your system BSOD'ed while playing the Mass Effect, what was the code?
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Hi, it's 1.13v (1.135) not 1.35v biggrin.gif
Also the Auto for the Xmp with this ram kit (and the same with my old 3600 cl17 dual channel kit) are way higher, 1.25v vccio but incredibly 1.39v for the system agent.
Ah... sorry. My bad. 1.13V for VCCIO seems ok.
With that being said, if you specifically aim for RealBench stability, you might find your system unstable in other scenarios, in my humble opinion.
When your system BSOD'ed while playing the Mass Effect, what was the code?

It never bsod'ed with code and never during gaming.
Under MEA it only restarted the pc once and crashed forcing me to log out twice.
Yesterday evening all good
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