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Originally Posted by cekim View Post

Those seem low for 6950 + 3200CL14

Your cache speed may be holding you back by a lot:


I have nothing in the way of excitement in my memory timings - 128G CAS14 CR2, pretty much Auto everything (eventual voltage 1.35 so the RvE doesn't cook my dimms with 1.5 randomly grrr)

What do you have your cache voltage set to. My current settings
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Originally Posted by jsutter71 View Post

What do you have your cache voltage set to. My current settings
I believe I have a 0.250 offset in the BIOS - as you can see in Aida, its reading 1.237 max and 1.2-1.237 under load for 3.6GHz

This chip can do 3.7 but it adds a lot heat for very little gain.
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Originally Posted by Bal3Wolf View Post

I don't see how some of you can run such low SA volts with 3000+ memory and 4 dimms my cpu takes 1.22 to be stable anything under 1.20 wont even post with all 32gigs.
I'm a little surprised myself. My prior 3000@14 128G set would not tolerate it. I tried. It needed every mV of 1.2v anything less and I'd get stressapptest or application (segfaut) errors eventually.

Again though, I realized after the fact, that this 3000@14 kit was producing recoverable crc errors (and corresponding retries) even when it was "working" (thanks to Praz pointing out crc/retry was enabled on DDR4, I knew it existed, I did not realize it was being used on non-ECC systems), so, it shouldn't be surprising that such a kit would require higher voltage.

This fact of the prior 3000@14 kit became clear when performance jumped accross the board with the new 3200@14 kit (as in 15-20% real-world compute application performance jump in some cases). Clearly that's beyond what you should expect for 3000->3200 in the best case.

So far so good and in every way - temps are lower, able to take some core and VCCin off as well - all of which go to overall package temp dropping.
Edited by cekim - 4/17/17 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by arrow0309 View Post

Jpmboy, just a curiosity
Having two different RTL's (one smaller by 2) on channel A, C different from B, D will add any improvement or stability?
a lot depends on the sticks being used, but generally the values you see in AST up to 64GB are normally different by 1 for SS sticks. The 16GB hi density DS sticks in cekim's screenine may require something else.
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

a lot depends on the sticks being used, but generally the values you see in AST up to 64GB are normally different by 1 for SS sticks. The 16GB hi density DS sticks in cekim's screenine may require something else.
and those values are entirely the BIOS' doing, not mine.
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OK, got it
Mine are 55 most of the times, once they were 57 (on the previous oc) but they're always the same all four (I have 4 ram slots).
4x8Gb, F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW, not sure exactly if they're single or double sided.
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I'm considering upgrading and futureproofing my system with a 6950X, maximizing the potential of the X99 platform.

What are the conclusions on this CPU after it being out for awhile now, is it a good overclocker? Any known issues?

Thank you for any replies, user experiences, or insights : )
    
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I'm considering upgrading and futureproofing my system with a 6950X, maximizing the potential of the X99 platform.

What are the conclusions on this CPU after it being out for awhile now, is it a good overclocker? Any known issues?

Thank you for any replies, user experiences, or insights : )
1. Not a "good overclocker" 4.3 is a typical limit for core and 3.7-3.8 for cache
- though it has a wide range of "good enough" settings... it doesn't take much to get 4.2-4.3, but may not be possible to go beyond without "cooling heroics"

2. Definitely a "good performer" - @ 4.3-4.4 it matches or exceeds core-for-fore performance of a 5960x @4.7-4.8GHz (with 5960x cache at ~4.2-4.4)
- IF (big IF) you have software that scales beyond 8 cores, well, then you get 2 more cores and 4 more threads. Such things are few and far between.

3. Better memory controller than 5960x - 3200CL14 is as close to "plug and play" as you should expect for any 3000+ setup. In fact, my current kit was literally a "boot up out of the box" scenario with BCLK=100 3200CL14.

4. No regrets, but I'd have a very, very hard time buying one right now with the June-ish timeline rumored for the next platform. If for no other reason than to get 6950x or 6900 cheaper. Take that with a grain of salt though - rumors are rumors and timelines are often longer than the whisper.

5. You have software that scales to 10 threads? or to 8 + butter smooth surfing and other on 2 cores while you wait for your computes on the other 8?
- if not, then 6900 is a good chip too that sometimes has more OC headroom.
Edited by cekim - 4/17/17 at 3:27pm
post #6078 of 6480
Hey guys,

I am in need of some advice. My first 6950x was replaced as it died. Now I am trying to overclock to what I had before with the old one.

Right now I am stable at 4.3 @ 1.32v and cache min/max 36
My mem is 3200, but I can only get it to 3000mhz? Previously it was XMP at 3200 @ 1.35v

A couple of questions -
1. Is running 1.32v ok?
2. How can I get this mem to run at its XMP profile of 3200mhz?

Thanks advance
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Hey guys,

I am in need of some advice. My first 6950x was replaced as it died. Now I am trying to overclock to what I had before with the old one.

Right now I am stable at 4.3 @ 1.32v and cache min/max 36
My mem is 3200, but I can only get it to 3000mhz? Previously it was XMP at 3200 @ 1.35v

A couple of questions -
1. Is running 1.32v ok?
2. How can I get this mem to run at its XMP profile of 3200mhz?

Thanks advance
1.32 Vcore seems ok provided that you have an enough cooling system. What kind of cooling are you using? (1.32V at 4.3 sounds like an AIO?). Max. package temp?
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and those values are entirely the BIOS' doing, not mine.
well trained critters those high density sticks are. smile.gif
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OK, got it
Mine are 55 most of the times, once they were 57 (on the previous oc) but they're always the same all four (I have 4 ram slots).
4x8Gb, F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW, not sure exactly if they're single or double sided.
8GB, single sided sticks.
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