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I tested 2933c14 and 3200c16 both on sisoftware sandra ram benchmark and the 3200c16 is faster
Speed is king
This formula frequency/cas is not true
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I tested 2933c14 and 3200c16 both on sisoftware sandra ram benchmark and the 3200c16 is faster
Speed is king
This formula frequency/cas is not true
Depends on your app, most real applications benefit from lower latency random access. Synthetics are doing large, linear address walk transfers that DDR controllers love.

Totally random access means opening a new page, row/col address, etc... big overhead compared to address+1
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I don't mean to be that guy and while I did plan on reading this entire thread in the near future since I have an X99 system with a 6800k, I've been lurking more in the X58 thread since I've been tweaking my old computer.

The reason I'm posting here is to find out about how common it is for current gen ASUS X99 boards to just up and DIE out of nowhere? I've had an X99 A-II running since late June last year and just last night it randomly shut down on me. Tested memory and even have another power supply that I could use to test with but same result, computer just shuts off within a second of turning it on. The board is dead.

How common is this? Should I expect it to die randomly in the future once ASUS returns it from RMA?
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Maybe, fist I have to stabilise it at 4.4, yesterday evening I tried a RB run and an error showed up after an hour (a windows error, the Luxmark stopped working) and I really don't know if I still have to increase the vcore, vcache or vccio / vccsa wheee.gif

What version of RealBench are you using and have you experienced those LuxMark crashes before? When I was using the previous version (2.4x?), I would get LuxMark crashes randomly some time into my benchmarks, like what you are describing. I read online some people say it is an incompatibility with Pascal drivers, or with certain monitoring programs, etc., but then I also read others saying that it is simply a sign of instability in your overclock. I really was never sure what to believe, but I could never fix the crashes.

This weekend, I updated to the newest RB v 2.54, and the behavior has changed. Now, the RB Stress Test is completely unusable, as LuxMark crashes instantly as soon as the test starts, even on completely stock settings (no overclock)! It also crashes instantly when I run the Open CL benchmark test, whereas in the old version I could pass that one without a LuxMark crash. So again, RB Stress Test is completely unusable, LuxMark crashes occur instantly, no matter what settings I use, even all stock settings which I have never experienced any instability with during normal usage.

I can run the RB Encoding benchmark, however. I can also pass the custom x264 stress test, and long runs of OCCT L, and Aida64 with all tests checked (CPU, FPU, Cache, Memory, Disk, GPU... I think they call this "Full Suite"?). So at this point I personally am very suspicious of the validity of a LuxMark crash in RealBench...

Let me know what you think.

P.S. I think @Bal3Wolf was experiencing these LuxMark crashes recently as well?
    
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I don't mean to be that guy and while I did plan on reading this entire thread in the near future since I have an X99 system with a 6800k, I've been lurking more in the X58 thread since I've been tweaking my old computer.

The reason I'm posting here is to find out about how common it is for current gen ASUS X99 boards to just up and DIE out of nowhere? I've had an X99 A-II running since late June last year and just last night it randomly shut down on me. Tested memory and even have another power supply that I could use to test with but same result, computer just shuts off within a second of turning it on. The board is dead.

How common is this? Should I expect it to die randomly in the future once ASUS returns it from RMA?
Had an x99 commit sepuku... RMA'd its replacement has been humming along for about year now 27/4 under decent load.

Have 6 X99 boards total, all running 24/7 OC'd to some degree or the other (dead board was not prior to dying).

Can it happen? Yep.
Do I lose sleep at night wonder if at any moment one of these boards will fail? Nope.

Check your cables and connectors, just to be sure you don't have a short elsewhere, but I'd RMA it and not worry about it. So far as I know, X99 boards are no more prone to failure than anything else.
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Really VCCSA/VCCIO are crazy voltages
Oc ram 3200 c16
Tried 1.15/1.1, 1.15/1.12, .13, .14 ,.15
Tried 1.16/1.16, 1.17/1.17, ... not stable until 1.2/1.2 passed 1500% hci memtest
Today i put vccio auto: 0.936V, VCCSA 1, 1.1 not stable,
Now VCCIO 0.936V VCCSA 1.12 V stable on hci memtest, these voltages are a lots of pain, but this is perfect for me
Edited by ELIAS-EH - 4/24/17 at 10:04am
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Had an x99 commit sepuku... RMA'd its replacement has been humming along for about year now 27/4 under decent load.

Have 6 X99 boards total, all running 24/7 OC'd to some degree or the other (dead board was not prior to dying).

Can it happen? Yep.
Do I lose sleep at night wonder if at any moment one of these boards will fail? Nope.

Check your cables and connectors, just to be sure you don't have a short elsewhere, but I'd RMA it and not worry about it. So far as I know, X99 boards are no more prone to failure than anything else.

Well good to know it doesn't seem more common. I just got concerned when I saw a lot of reviews on Newegg talking about similar scenarios (I know, I know, still seemed like a lot of people having the board randomly die after x amount of months).

I went through the song and dance with ASUS already and got them to give me a shipping label so I won't have to pay anything and this way when I get home from work today and try setting it up outside of the case with minimal components if it still doesn't work I can quickly throw it in a box and have it shipped off.

It was very odd, just shut off randomly while watching a movie. Never had a board die like that before especially considering I only had a very light overclock going, 4.1ghz core, 3.4ghz cache, 2800mhz memory at CL14 32gb, voltages on adaptive maxes out at 1.2v core, 1.06v cache, 1.24v dram and 1.01 VCCSA, way below what would be considered a stressful overclock for the motherboard.

EDIT:: Oh and another thing, ASUS claims they have no new X99 A-II's in stock to ship me a replacement so now I have to wait for it to ship out, get fixed and be shipped back until I can get my computer running again. How the hell can they not have stock on a current generation board? rolleyes.gif
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let's see if INtel can price that 12 core somewhere in the green-yellow zone, unlike the 6950X which was off the scale!

I predict $2,250 USD for 12c, hope we get cooler motherboards
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I predict $2,250 USD for 12c, hope we get cooler motherboards
You know Intel trolls these forums and just takes the highest prediction right? biggrin.gif
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let's see if INtel can price that 12 core somewhere in the green-yellow zone, unlike the 6950X which was off the scale!

AMD is going to need to release a 16core quad channel memory "prosumer" chip between Ryzen and Naples to rationalize Intel's shenanigans.

I just want my 5GHz 16 core 1.21GW TDP chip dammit...

Yeaaah thumb.gif
And Intel Protection Plan for free specool.gif
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