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One potential issue with monoblocks is uneven mounting. This can bend traces and cause all kinds of instability.
With a normal CPU block, it's pretty much screw it down until it locks as the springs may redistribute the pressure evenly. this is the case with EKWB Evo blocks. Speaking from experience, my ASUS RVE10 Monoblock screws in from underneath the mobo, and the pressure is definitely not even. I can tell by the amount of threads that bite with the locking nut. Some corners screw in more than others. I haven't powered on the system to test yet, but I hope it works out in the end... lol.
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Originally Posted by chibi View Post

One potential issue with monoblocks is uneven mounting. This can bend traces and cause all kinds of instability.
With a normal CPU block, it's pretty much screw it down until it locks as the springs may redistribute the pressure evenly. this is the case with EKWB Evo blocks. Speaking from experience, my ASUS RVE10 Monoblock screws in from underneath the mobo, and the pressure is definitely not even. I can tell by the amount of threads that bite with the locking nut. Some corners screw in more than others. I haven't powered on the system to test yet, but I hope it works out in the end... lol.
mono-blocked my RvE and X99-Pro. No issues with that.

I will say the X99-Pro monoblock is a bit more appealing for the sake of long-term maintenance and frankly, I don't care how hot the PCH gets because it just doesn't matter as we don't need mess with the PCIe clocks (thankfully) to OC.

The complexity of break-down is definitely much higher with the full-board block, but I can't say that I saw anything on either resembling what you describe.
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My issue with the RVE10 monoblock was when I had to poke out the plastic bits by the CPU socket. After clearing that, I placed the block on top and fed the feet through. However, when I went to screw in the nut, some of them would catch more than the others and the threading looks uneven. I did take the block on and off multiple times and cleaned out the mounting holes as best I could. Just my experience, but I don't expect too much of a problem as they're only off by a thread or so.

I'll see if I can grab some pictures later tonight to showcase my scenario. I do fully agree with you on the X99 Pro monoblock though. I prefer that look and don't care about the PCH for the same reasons.
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My issue with the RVE10 monoblock was when I had to poke out the plastic bits by the CPU socket. After clearing that, I placed the block on top and fed the feet through. However, when I went to screw in the nut, some of them would catch more than the others and the threading looks uneven. I did take the block on and off multiple times and cleaned out the mounting holes as best I could. Just my experience, but I don't expect too much of a problem as they're only off by a thread or so.

I'll see if I can grab some pictures later tonight to showcase my scenario. I do fully agree with you on the X99 Pro monoblock though. I prefer that look and don't care about the PCH for the same reasons.
Board to bow on their own, but the amount of bending the block imparts back to straight shouldn't be an issue. The intel socket puts quite a lot of pressure on the chip package all on its own.
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Thanks for the reply. I tried to lower VCCSA and get errors. I also tried to increase VCCIO and I get errors even with 10 to 30 mv. I ran HCI with 20 instances stable for 500%+ 1.360v DRAM 1.195v VCSSA and 0.960v VCCIO. I will run a memory/cache benchmark and see how 3200MHz performs. I received my Titan Xp so I have been playing with that toy. thumb.gif
nice.. great "toy" thumb.gif
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Board to bow on their own, but the amount of bending the block imparts back to straight shouldn't be an issue. The intel socket puts quite a lot of pressure on the chip package all on its own.

I gotta say , there are so many posts related to improper mono-block fitment or overtightening etc. I still contend that the monoblock cannot contact the CPU as well as a component block... just don;t get carried away with your GPUs tho wink.gif


Edited by Jpmboy - 5/2/17 at 6:34am
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

nice.. great "toy" thumb.gif
I gotta say , there are so many posts related to improper mono-block fitment or overtightening etc. I still content that the monoblock cannot contact the CPU as well as a component block... just don;t get carried away with your GPUs tho wink.gif

LOL @ that GPU. There's someone who appreciates a good Rube Goldberg solution... Where's the steel ball and the slide?
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

nice.. great "toy" thumb.gif
I gotta say , there are so many posts related to improper mono-block fitment or overtightening etc. I still content that the monoblock cannot contact the CPU as well as a component block... just don;t get carried away with your GPUs tho wink.gif


YIKES! eek.gif
COOL! biggrin.gif
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I dub that GPU "Bane".
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lol - prototype "monoblock" by Yugo. smile.gif
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Pushing the envelope a bit further today. Dropped the voltage slightly and increased the core clock to 44 and the cache ratio to 37.

Edited by jsutter71 - 5/2/17 at 7:16am
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