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So cool. So damn cool.

I have a 10c difference on my worst core with my 5930k. I am seriously considering this.

It's holding me back bigtime. While my best core is at 75c this one is at 85c... sometimes even more.

That's basically why I can't go over 1.4v with AVX. It's that damn crap core. Hehe.


Yeah that would definitely benefit from a de-lid then! Too bad you don't have a 6850K actually, because Broadwell-E introduced a new technology for "core ranking" which is where the OS will be able to tell you which of your cores are the "Best cores" that can OC highest. And you can program it to, whenever you are running a single threaded type program or game that only uses one two or three cores etc.., that the CPU will instead of spreading the load on all 6 cores with ~25% load on all 6 of them; it'll put the ENTIRE load on just the two "best cores" and will allow you to overclock more.

Like say your 5930K can hit 4.6ghz with all 6 cores, but can't hit 4.7ghz because of that bad ~85C core. With this core ranking ability, the CPU would take the entire load and put it on your best two cores and clock them up to 4.7ghz or even 4.8ghz, and then DOWNclock or possibly disable the other 3-4 cores, in order to provide the two or three cores with the load on them with the entire voltage/wattage of the whole CPU. VERY useful in certain situations. It's basically like how pro overclockers turn off all but one or two cores in order to hit like ~6ghz+ on an 8 core CPU, it helps you get a higher clocked CPU than you usually would in programs that aren't using all yoru cores.
 
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I kinda wonder if you could modify like the EK Predator or the Swiftech H240X Prestige etc.. to fit on a GPU?!?! That would be pretty damn cool i must admit lol. All you'd have to do is take the EK Predator or Swiftech unit and unscrew the fittings from the EK Supremacy MX CPU waterblock that comes on it and buy a GPU "universal block" and attach that to the fittings instead. (since the predator and swiftech are open loops that are just pre-built like an AIO you can take them apart etc.. and they have quick disconnect fittings which is fantastic)


Speaking of quick disconnect, did you hear about the new EK waterblocks for the Strix 1080? They're selling it with fluid pre-filled in it and a quick disconnect fitting attached to it already for ~$20 extra, so if you have an AIO like the EK Predator on your CPU you can just pop the quick disconnect on the predator and pop your GPU block into the loop and you're good to go. Seems like "open AIO" units are actually catching up to custom loops haha.


If you have a founders edition card though, you might want to look into an actual water block or something instead of an AIO. You can get like the "EK Thermosphere" which is a universal reference waterblock but much larger than the tiny little uniblocks we're used to seeing; it cools the VRM too in addition to the core. And looks much better imo.

That would be cool. For sure. I really like the look of the Swiftech 240x.

I have a Phobya 200mm Rad that would be PERFECT for a 1080 I think. That's the beauty of these cards, we won't need much rad space to cool them.

I thought the thermosphere was not compatible with the 1080's? Full water block doesn't seem to be worth it this time around. Looks only ya know?
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That would be cool. For sure. I really like the look of the Swiftech 240x.

I have a Phobya 200mm Rad that would be PERFECT for a 1080 I think. That's the beauty of these cards, we won't need much rad space to cool them.

I thought the thermosphere was not compatible with the 1080's? Full water block doesn't seem to be worth it this time around. Looks only ya know?


Oh? You might be right, i haven't checked if the thermosphere fits the 1080. I just assumed it did since we're talking about a reference board and the thermosphere has fit virtually every reference card since the 700 series iirc.


Interesitngly, MSI is actually selling a 1080 called the "EK Seahawk" which is just their Gaming X card like i have with the ~1.11v modified VBIOS voltage limit, but instead of having a single 8 pin with reference board just with a corsair H55 on it like the regualr MSI seahawk has; this is the full 8 + 6 pin Gaming X card with a nice looking custom EK Waterblock installed on it! It even has a laser etched EK logo and the MSI dragon laser etched on the block etc.. its a nice plexi nickel block too! $800 on newegg currently. They ran out though when the pre-orders went live a few days ago.

Kinda pissed me off that MSI didn't tell us the EK Seahawk 1080 was coming as i would've never bought my Gaming X for $720 if i knew that i could've saved $80+ off the cost of a Gaming X + EK full cover block ($720 + ~$130 for full cover block + $35 for backplate = $885. much more expensive, and its probably not even the nice laser etched custom block either!)


Another interesting thing is that Jacob from EVGA confirmed that there will be "Several versions of the 1080 Hydro Copper" and would "neither confirm nor deny that a GTX 1080 Classified Hydro Copper exists and/or is in the works" i'd jump on a 1080 hydro copper classified in a SECOND lol.
 
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Oh? You might be right, i haven't checked if the thermosphere fits the 1080. I just assumed it did since we're talking about a reference board and the thermosphere has fit virtually every reference card since the 700 series iirc.


Interesitngly, MSI is actually selling a 1080 called the "EK Seahawk" which is just their Gaming X card like i have with the ~1.11v modified VBIOS voltage limit, but instead of having a single 8 pin with reference board just with a corsair H55 on it like the regualr MSI seahawk has; this is the full 8 + 6 pin Gaming X card with a nice looking custom EK Waterblock installed on it! It even has a laser etched EK logo and the MSI dragon laser etched on the block etc.. its a nice plexi nickel block too! $800 on newegg currently. They ran out though when the pre-orders went live a few days ago.

Kinda pissed me off that MSI didn't tell us the EK Seahawk 1080 was coming as i would've never bought my Gaming X for $720 if i knew that i could've saved $80+ off the cost of a Gaming X + EK full cover block ($720 + ~$130 for full cover block + $35 for backplate = $885. much more expensive, and its probably not even the nice laser etched custom block either!)


Another interesting thing is that Jacob from EVGA confirmed that there will be "Several versions of the 1080 Hydro Copper" and would "neither confirm nor deny that a GTX 1080 Classified Hydro Copper exists and/or is in the works" i'd jump on a 1080 hydro copper classified in a SECOND lol.

Anything said by me about the Thermosphere would just be speculation ATM. However I do remember seeing posts saying it needs to be modded to fit. That's what I'm going on, hehe.

The Seahawk looks amazing. It's the one card I'd want over my FE. I can see how you'd have a little buyers remorse over that one. Haha. I heard EVGA was releasing the Hybrid Kit for the 1080 as well.

Seems like we have many, many water options now. Those quick disconnect models you were talking about sound just sickeningly cool.
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delidding a soldered CPU IHS is good for only one purpose - direct to die cooling. otherwise what are you gonna do? Put CLU on it? blinksmiley.gif
More cracked silicon than happy delidders. You still need to heat the IHS even with a mircometer drift. (it's a standard machine shop technique - blue print an engine, you'll know first hand tongue.gif )
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You guys have to learn how to edit your post and use multi quote to avoid doing consecutive posts. biggrin.gif

I know... I'm on my Note 5. Apologies for the extra posts. It's possible to do multi quotes and the like, it gets harder the more you do it though.

Laziness.... hehe

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delidding a soldered CPU IHS is good for only one purpose - direct to die cooling. otherwise what are you gonna do? Put CLU on it? blinksmiley.gif
More cracked silicon than happy delidders. You still need to heat the IHS even with a mircometer drift. (it's a standard machine shop technique - blue print an engine, you'll know first hand tongue.gif )

I'd do direct die of course. I have a Raystorm on my 5930k now so cooling direct die would be a matter of a few more turns of the screws.

I'm still very interested. I'd like to try this, I don't want to kill a 5930k though....
Edited by nexxusty - 6/23/16 at 1:37pm
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Dude. HE is the one with the attitude mocking me, i simply replied in kind. And its people with childish "pics or get out" nonsense are the annoying ones lol. I got absolute confirmation from MSI that their card uses that wattage and i've confirmed it on my PC watt readings too as have multiple other people. Go look at gamersnexus review and Jayz2Cents review, he states the same; that the card is listed at 270w TDP at stock and 290w TDP with max power target lifted, with Gamersnexus stating that their card WITHOUT extra voltage limit was capable of passing 250w. The only reason this 1080 uses this much is that it has a much higher voltage limit of around 1.11v in the VBIOS compared to 1.065 on basically every other 1080.


EDIT: Look, i don't mean any offense here. Not trying to be rude. But i KNOW for a fact that this card draws just at 300watts or so. And got confirmation from several sources including the manufacturer. If you guys don't believe me go get the card and pump it to 1.1v

Same place you got a vmod bios from?

Pics are proof... kinda dispels the BS.
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I know... I'm on my Note 5. Apologies for the extra posts. It's possible to do multi quotes and the like, it gets harder the more you do it though.

Laziness.... hehe
I'd do direct die of course. I have a Raystorm on my 5930k now so cooling direct die would be a matter of a few more turns of the screws.

I'm still very interested. I'd like to try this, I don't want to kill a 5930k though....

sorry man - that's just so wrong! you need to use shims or the die will crack. Report back with how you do going direct to die bareback.smile.gif
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EK ASUS X99 Monoblock 2x EK XE480 Radiators Swiftech MCP35X (Dual DDC) Pump EK X3 250 Reservoir 
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Windows 10 Pro X64 LG C6 55" UHD OLED Smart TV Logitech G710 Corsair RM1000 1000W 
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Corsair 900D Logitech G700S Razer ExactMat Pioneer VSX-930-K Receiver 
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Pioneer S-RS77TB Speakers Pioneer S-RS3SW Subwoofer Logitech G35 
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Intel Core i7 7820HK Aorus HM175 NVIDIA GTX 1080 Notebook 32GB Kingston Hyper X DDR4 2400MHz 
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512GB Samsung SM961 SSD Seagate FireCuda 2TB Windows 10 Pro 17.3" Sharp IGZO 4K 
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