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Thats why im here. If XMP is not working Im here so people can help me get them where they need to be.


Your issue is not really relevant to that fascinating fragment of baseless information, not sure who he was talking to. That board was never designed with BWE in mind, and the kit you are using is not listed for it. That's two factors in your struggle, the other is if that board even has OC socket capabilities. I would like to assume so as there are kits listed there at the frequencies you are trying to achieve under it's QVL
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Last versions of P95 v28.xx inject insane currents in Motherboards. This software is dangerous, even with good water cooling.
This is an extreme test according to me which can't be realistic, even if you use softwares with AVX/AVX/FM3 instructions.
I would suggest you to use OCCT.
It is tougher to pass than RealBench and Aida64 and doesn't produce any insane temps as with P95 v28.xx.

It is by no means dangerous by what it is, you just have to know what you are doing and decide to stick to lower clocks and voltage or possibly face the consequences. I still run latest P95 and LinX but that's just me, things have changed a bit with BW-E since the AVX multiplier can be throttled.
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http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X99E-ITXac/?cat=Memory

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9391/the-asrock-x99e-itx-ac-review-36-threads

Has OC socket, memory can be OCd, top speeds around 3333 in the QVL for the board. Issue is that anything over 3000 on the kits there is a 4-8GB kit, no 16GBs over 3200. You may be able to get it to work but it might require some higher voltages, and pushing more on the IMC as well. That QVL seems to have more attention paid to it than any other qvl ive seen and is pretty up to date.. so they probably cant manage kits over 3200 16GB on that thing.

edit: also just realized your kit is 2x16 not 2x8.. pretty excessive its going to be harder to get 16GB DIMMs working especially on a mobo like that. Need to keep the density in mind as well as the bandwidth when working with an itx board

I'd suggest to you getting a kit with a lower bandwidth, or staying that high but going down to 8GB. Otherwise if you stick with this kit you are going to need to push the system agent pretty hard as well as the sticks themselves.. without getting any gains on timings.

If there's a BIOS on it that supports BW-E, that board is in the same boat as every single other board other than the 'refresh' models.. but those really don't have many differences. Not sure what 'that board wasnt made with broadwell-e in mind' even means.
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http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X99E-ITXac/?cat=Memory


If there's a BIOS on it that supports BW-E, that board is in the same boat as every single other board other than the 'refresh' models.. but those really don't have many differences. Not sure what 'that board wasnt made with broadwell-e in mind' even means.

And that is fine, wouldn't expect you to. Mind me asking who you work for?
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If he has 2x16GB then presumably they should be dual ranked, depending on brand. You said they are G. Skill didn't you @Ragsters? What IC are they?

Broadwell-E seems to (for the most part) be kinda limited to 3000-3200, i've talked to people saying they hit 3300 / 3333mhz on Some Samsungn ICs. (i'd kill for some Elpida Hypers in DDR4 3000+....you can dream right?) I managed to hit 3000mhz C16 on my 4x8GB Dominator Platinum Samsung IC so far on a 6800K. Not looking like i'll get any farther though.
 
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If he has 2x16GB then presumably they should be dual ranked, depending on brand. You said they are G. Skill didn't you @Ragsters? What IC are they?

Broadwell-E seems to (for the most part) be kinda limited to 3000-3200, i've talked to people saying they hit 3300 / 3333mhz on Some Samsungn ICs. (i'd kill for some Elpida Hypers in DDR4 3000+....you can dream right?) I managed to hit 3000mhz C16 on my 4x8GB Dominator Platinum Samsung IC so far on a 6800K. Not looking like i'll get any farther though.

This is my kit now.

Right now I have the kit at the same latency but at 2800Mhz.
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This is my kit now.

Right now I have the kit at the same latency but at 2800Mhz.


AHH that's right. Forgot you had Vengeance....hmm, don't recall off the top of my head what IC vengeance DDR4's usually use. But idk, you SHOULD be able to hit 3000mhz on it without issue. 3200 is iffy but 3000 should be fine imo. Are you able to run C16 -17 3000mhz? Perhaps you'll need ~1.4v to get a decent 3k-mhz+ speeds.
 
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Or just run P95 v27.9.

this is not the way to do this.
Just use the latest Prime95 and use the commands to disable FMA3 and AVX. Details on how are in the undoco.txt file, zero obviously disables. Put that command into the local.txt file. This way you get rid of all bugs that have been fixed while giving you an option to test without FMA3 or AVX.

CpuSupportsAVX=0 or 1
CpuSupportsFMA3=0 or 1
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Hello

Should post up some HCI screenshots.

I asked weeks ago... lot's of BS and no evidence of anything.
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not sure what a lot of research entails but there were about 3 ppl total in this thread that immediately said on day 1 that the BW-E IMC is terrible and cant handle this and that andblah blah blah

but I have run 3200kits, also OCd them to 3400 with zero issues on.. a large # of 6950xs

People just don't know how to get their kits running.

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not sure what a lot of research entails but there were about 3 ppl total in this thread that immediately said on day 1 that the BW-E IMC is terrible and cant handle this and that andblah blah blah

but I have run 3200kits, also OCd them to 3400 with zero issues on.. a large # of 6950xs

People just don't know how to get their kits running.
I would agree, I had trouble my first day or so with a 6950x, but eventually found the IMC to be better than Haswell. Running 3000CAS14 128G. I am able to run "stable" at 3200CAS14 (ran for 10+ days like that), but stressapp would eventually show temperature dependent single bit corruption. So, I dialed it back to 3000. The RAM was not "overheating", just as it got hot under stress, it could take the OC.

Overall the 6950x @ 4.4/3.7 (CPU/Cache) has been extremely stable, runs cool, spins up from idle faster, but with a few notable exceptions gives me performance VERY similar in raw compute terms as my 5960x @ 4.7/4.2.
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