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So anyway...

Quick comparison here between SM961 in the M.2 port and PCIE x16_5


M.2 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


PCIE x16_5 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

OS drive? Do you think those numbers are actually different?
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Hey guys. I'm starting a new build and planning on using a BW-E chip. I've got some questions though, and be prepared because they're kind of "loaded" questions! tongue.gif

So, first things first. I've looked into benchmarks and saw that the 6700k is faster than something like the 6950X in single thread tasks. Is that simply because of the clock speed difference? IE, if I were to overclock the 6950X to 4.0GHz, would it perform about the same in single threaded tasks? Or is there something vastly different between these two CPU's that would make that scenario untrue?

Second, does anyone have any idea as to what temperatures I could expect on a 4.0GHz overclock? I'd like to keep voltage down as low as possible, and I'll be using a 360mm radiator.

Lastly, I'm trying to figure out which CPU is best for my needs. I'm most often gaming, but, I very often also record, stream, and have several other various software running in the background. I was thinking perhaps the 6900K. Seems like a good value, with 40 PCI lanes and a decent clock speed out of the box.

1) 6700K is faster than HWE or BWE in single threaded comparisons. Higher clocks, very good IPC.
2) if the voltage is 1.2 or below air cooling is fine. A good WC block and heat transfer/shed - 1.3V shold be no problem. So I don;t think a 4.0 OC will be temp limited for ya.
3) if you game with one card.. a 6700K is the best choice (delidded). 2 GPUs, AICs, encoding.. etc, the more cores the moar better, wink.gif
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So anyway...

Quick comparison here between SM961 in the M.2 port and PCIE x16_5


M.2



PCIE x16_5

Why so slow? tongue.gif

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Maybe 1TB is faster?

post #974 of 7227
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The one that ships with the ASUS Deluxe II. On the Deluxe, PCIEX16_3 shares bandwidth with the M.2 and U.2 ports, which is where my GPU is currently residing - so the contrast there may well be due to this. Just thought I'd post it regardless lol.

Datasheet:
"PCIe x16_3 shares bandwidth with M.2 and U.2_2. It runs at x8 mode by default. "

Are you running video card at x8?
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Why so slow? tongue.gif

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Maybe 1TB is faster?


Your ssd is empty
post #975 of 7227
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Originally Posted by ottoore View Post

Datasheet:
"PCIe x16_3 shares bandwidth with M.2 and U.2_2. It runs at x8 mode by default. "

Are you running video card at x8?
Your ssd is empty

^^ This. OS drive also.

(but the higher capacity drives are ususlly faster in these synthetic benchmarks. Kinda pointless IMO, any of the NVMe drives are faster than most home-use work-flow scenarios.)
Edited by Jpmboy - 7/2/16 at 7:09am
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True, I just had my eye on a set of 32GB 2800Mhz Corsair Vengeance LPX (14-16-16-36).
Don't know which ram to get honestly, there isn't an abundance of lower latency higher frequency ram here, so slim pickings.

I know it's a bit of a side grade, but remember a few months ago on the Haswell-E thread I was going to build a new machine and give the wife/teenagers this one, so tossing up which CPU to get myself or them.
The teenagers are doing Film and TV, which requires a lot of video editing, also gives me a reason to buy some new toys..lol.

ah... go for the highest core count the budget allows. thumb.gif
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You don't, at least not primarily. PCIEX16_1 is the optimal slot for the GPU, it was just easier for me at the time due to tube length. The lanes are the most direct path to extract the kind of performance most people will be wanting. Only so many slots to go around on a feature rich board like this

With 6800K it is really annoying design for sli and m.2. I cant use slot 1 and 3 with m.2 since slot 2 and 5 is pci gen 2 which are the only slots not blocked by gpu. And if I use the onboard m.2, then the slot 3 drops to x4. I think the only option is moving gpu down to slot 4 with a long sli bridge and using m.2 in slot 3 or onboard. I say it is a poor deign on asus part for those that do not have 40 lanes and I would have rather have m.2 shared with slot 4 instead so I can use HB or led bridges. I think even if you do have 40 lanes that would probably still be better as well so you can run 4 way sli or 3 way sli without issue with m.2 onboard.
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i have anyone successfully get over 4.6ghz on a 6850k yet?
Edited by babycharm00 - 7/2/16 at 7:48am
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Datasheet:
"PCIe x16_3 shares bandwidth with M.2 and U.2_2. It runs at x8 mode by default. "

Are you running video card at x8?
Your ssd is empty

actually the TB is faster!!
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Why so slow? tongue.gif

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Maybe 1TB is faster?


The TB is faster, check the specs
Edited by babycharm00 - 7/2/16 at 7:47am
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With 6800K it is really annoying design for sli and m.2. I cant use slot 1 and 3 with m.2 since slot 2 and 5 is pci gen 2 which are the only slots not blocked by gpu. And if I use the onboard m.2, then the slot 3 drops to x4. I think the only option is moving gpu down to slot 4 with a long sli bridge and using m.2 in slot 3 or onboard. I say it is a poor deign on asus part for those that do not have 40 lanes and I would have rather have m.2 shared with slot 4 instead so I can use HB or led bridges. I think even if you do have 40 lanes that would probably still be better as well so you can run 4 way sli or 3 way sli without issue with m.2 onboard.


Same on the original Deluxe for SLI lane spacing. You want a 60mm bridge, to use PCIEx16_1 and 3. Besides which, PCIEX16_2 is only capable of 8x anyway. I'm not sure you're numbering the slots correctly in that post
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