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Which is the 6800k, I also need to grab a new video card as they'll be getting the GTX980ti, they want to join the PC gaming race too, they are over their xbox's...lol..
By my dilemma was should I take the 6800k or keep the 5820k, I keep wondering which is going to be the best overclocker and yield the better performance in the long run.
This will be the last big system build for a couple of years, so I'm trying to get it right, unlike the MSI mistake I made before, still appreciate all your help with that.

Was thinking something like this.
https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/575713

(The Gigabyte GTX1080 is just a placeholder to get a rough idea of costs, I really want to grab the MSI GTX1080 Seahawk or eVGA Hybrid)

You should look for a good buy on a good 5960X... 5820K and 6850K are gonna be too close to notice a difference. Heck, if you weren't on the other side of there planet, I'd offer you my 5960X and R5E. Tho, I haven;t decided to sell redface.gif
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You should look for a good buy on a good 5960X... 5820K and 6850K are gonna be too close to notice a difference. Heck, if you weren't on the other side of there planet, I'd offer you my 5960X and R5E. Tho, I haven;t decided to sell redface.gif

Mate that's a nice offer, thank you thumb.gif

I've been keeping my eye out for one, no one local is selling any.
Though I can buy a new 5960x for $100 less than a 6900k, here the 6900k is $1649 and the 5960x is $1549, don't ask about the 6950x ($2579).
Then again the 5820k is nearly $100 less ($579) than a 6800k ($669), but the 6850k is $959 for a small (if any) performance increase over the 5820k when overclocking both.
Little harder to pick what to get value wise in Australia.. rolleyes.gif

I can deal with having the same or close performance, in the end I need to build something before school goes back in 2 weeks, this is when they get stuck into their huge projects.
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Mate that's a nice offer, thank you thumb.gif

I've been keeping my eye out for one, no one local is selling any.
Though I can buy a new 5960x for $100 less than a 6900k, here the 6900k is $1649 and the 5960x is $1549, don't ask about the 6950x ($2579).
Then again the 5820k is nearly $100 less ($579) than a 6800k ($669), but the 6850k is $959 for a small (if any) performance increase over the 5820k when overclocking both.
Little harder to pick what to get value wise in Australia.. rolleyes.gif

I can deal with having the same or close performance, in the end I need to build something before school goes back in 2 weeks, this is when they get stuck into their huge projects.

6800K won't disappoint. lol- those prices are silly in any denomination (AUD right?)
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6800K won't disappoint. lol- those prices are silly in any denomination (AUD right?)

Yep AUD.
The Australian dollar is horrible at the moment, when I bought my 5820k we were getting 98c US to $1AU so it was a lot cheaper than what they are now.
It's $1229 for a Asus GTX1080 Strix Gaming, I love watching review saying it's expensive at $799, I wish... rolleyes.gif
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Rampage V Edition 10 no need? 6800K working fine on the original R5E with my RAM OC since I updated the firmware on my OC Panel (that was the cause of the crazy POST codes).

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The HB bridge is a pascal thing only... and I can say for sure that a single 1080 or a 1080ti (assuming a generous 10% AND a higher power limit, or a 1080 with a mod bios) is not going to top a pair of full die maxwell gpus. My 2 titans just crush my 1080 at 1440P and higher in just about anything I've tried. smile.gif


I'm not so sure about that in the case of the 1080 TI. The 1080 TI is said to have 3,840 cuda cores which is the exact same 1.5x core count that the TITAN X had over the 980 (3840 / 2560 = 1.5x and 3072 / 2048 = 2.5x) So we SHOULD see something around 50% increase in general gaming etc.. performance on a 1080 TI over a 1080 since the TITAN X was pretty much exactly that over the 980 (~50%) since core count is surprisingly linear in performance increase nowadays, and once you add in a 384 bit bus with G5X (or HBM2 which would be even better, but not likely from rumors lately) the 320gb/s bandwidth raises to a whopping 480gb/s if its clocked at 10,000mhz effective same as 1080, or even higher at 576gb/s if they can squeeze the 12,000mhz effective that G5X is supposedly capable of, on the TI card. That bandwidth should help it at least hit ~50% increase.


So if a 1080 is 30% faster than TITAN X, and the 1080 TI will be 50% faster than that, we get that a 1080 TI would be roughly 80% faster than a TITAN X! And since SLI scaling isn't perfect that means that you basically have the EXACT same situation as the 1080. (i.e. GTX 1080 roughly equal to SLI 980s give or take a few percent. And GTX 1080 TI roughly equal to SLI TITAN X or 980 TI reference)


Of course this is a best case scenario since 1080's aren't ALWAYS 30% faster than TITAN X (sometimes more like 25% etc..) and TITAN X is sometimes more like ~45% over 980 etc.. But overall a single 1080 TI SHOULD stack up pretty favorably to SLI TITANX and SLI 980 TI's in my opinion. Who knows though, we'll see thumb.gif
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Yep AUD.
The Australian dollar is horrible at the moment, when I bought my 5820k we were getting 98c US to $1AU so it was a lot cheaper than what they are now.
It's $1229 for a Asus GTX1080 Strix Gaming, I love watching review saying it's expensive at $799, I wish... rolleyes.gif


From what i've seen you're often better off just ordering stuff from America or Europe and paying international shipping than just getting it in Australia. I mean hell, pcpartpicker australian version says 5960X is like ~$1500 AUD new, so even used will easily run you maybe $1300? Whereas in US you can get a 5960X for $1020 USD new or under $750 USD used. https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00MMLXIHM/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used



At current exchange that means it'd be around ~$1,340 AUD new or $973 AUD used for a 5960X bought from the US amazon; i highly doubt your shipping would cost $300 to australia from US on such a small item so it'd come out much cheaper to buy one in the US which is what friends i know who live in Australia have said to me before; that they buy US parts pretty often. So i'm honestly recommending people in europe and AUS etc.. to just buy a used 8 core 5960X or something like JPM said, instead of paying the same price for a less powerful 6 core 6850K or something due to overpriced AUD prices.
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At current exchange that means it'd be around ~$1,340 AUD new or $973 AUD used for a 5960X bought from the US amazon; i highly doubt your shipping would cost $300 to australia from US on such a small item so it'd come out much cheaper to buy one in the US which is what friends i know who live in Australia have said to me before; that they buy US parts pretty often. So i'm honestly recommending people in europe and AUS etc.. to just buy a used 8 core 5960X or something like JPM said, instead of paying the same price for a less powerful 6 core 6850K or something due to overpriced AUD prices.

Yes, but in my search I can't find any used on Amazon that will ship to Australia.
We can buy from Newegg now, a lot of people do that here, but we have import tax on things over $1000, so you can get stung with that as well.
A 5960x on Newegg is $1499AU, so you have to factor import tax, there is a way around it and that's to setup a international forwarding service, but for a one off it doesn't save you anything.
Though a 6800k is $665 on Newegg and $669 locally wink.gif

I looked into all that, I'm a member of overclockers.com.au which a few of the guys over there do the same thing, more so for video cards as they generally work out under $1000 but you void any warranty.
You wouldn't believe how the politicians here try to lock down the country so you have to buy local, they are now trying to make any international purchase require import tax, STEAM included, currently when a game costs $60US over there we paid $80US over here, yes for the same game with the same US currency, so that $80US game costs us around $100AU, I kid you not, 3rd party key sites are big over here.
(Sorry little off topic, but I hope it paints a picture why I um and ah over what hardware to buy...)
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Rampage V Edition 10 no need? 6800K working fine on the original R5E with my RAM OC since I updated the firmware on my OC Panel (that was the cause of the crazy POST codes).


He's working with a fair bit more memory than you, and looking for more stability
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Yes, but in my search I can't find any used on Amazon that will ship to Australia.
We can buy from Newegg now, a lot of people do that here, but we have import tax on things over $1000, so you can get stung with that as well.
A 5960x on Newegg is $1499AU, so you have to factor import tax, there is a way around it and that's to setup a international forwarding service, but for a one off it doesn't save you anything.
Though a 6800k is $665 on Newegg and $669 locally wink.gif

I looked into all that, I'm a member of overclockers.com.au which a few of the guys over there do the same thing, more so for video cards as they generally work out under $1000 but you void any warranty.
You wouldn't believe how the politicians here try to lock down the country so you have to buy local, they are now trying to make any international purchase require import tax, STEAM included, currently when a game costs $60US over there we paid $80US over here, yes for the same game with the same US currency, so that $80US game costs us around $100AU, I kid you not, 3rd party key sites are big over here.
(Sorry little off topic, but I hope it paints a picture why I um and ah over what hardware to buy...)


Oh, guess amazon has some issues shipping electronics to certain countries from the US. Didn't know about that. From what i read only the "proffesional account" sellers can sell in all categories internationally. There are other sites that sell to australia though. Didn't know Newegg had an aussie purchasing site; interesting.

Here's a 5960X that ships to all north america, the UK and Australia among some other places. $736, which puts it at under $1000 AUD, worth checking out

https://reverb.com/item/2431275-intel-i7-5960x


Sucks about the games and stuff, i've heard that places like G2A, Kinguin etc.. that sell keys are very popular in a lot of countries that can't afford the absurd game prices in their currency.
 
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