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Hey guys my 6700k had a temp sensor issue which caused core 0 to read insane temps even when under idle causing my fans to behave sporadically. Intel gave me the option to refund my original purchase price or send me a new chip. Since the chip was able to hit 4.9 Ghz the odd of receiving a comparable chip are slim to none. Also since the price dropped on the 6700k a refund seems like a no brainier. I'm using the Maximus hero board that I purchased for $170. I'm considering selling the board and using the cash from the CPU to buy the ultimate rig. I'm running two 980tis in sli and will buy 1080tis when they launch. I want the 6850k for the additional cores and to be able to run the gpu at full x16 bandwidth.

Is this a worthy upgrade to keep me set for the next two or three years or is this a really stupid move? I've been wanting to make the jump to x99 for a while now and it seems like the perfect opportunity. What do you guys think?


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You're spending big money for very low single digit percentage increases in gaming perfomance (maybe 3%, possible <1%).

If you do other multithreaded things the extra cores are nice, but more than 4 cores rarely helps in gaming. Also the extra bandwidth from the PCIe lanes is also a red-hearing for perfomance.

Clockspeed is still the single biggest factor for intel's line, so a nice 4.6ghz skylake will be better than a 4.2-4.4ghz hexcore.
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I'm with yo on this.. will drop my z170/6700k to my small brother and order the asus x99 Strix or the Rampage also if the price for the 6850k good i will go with that..

you will gain 4 thread's and Quad memory channel.. also the 16X on your SLI setup thumb.gif
   
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I'm with yo on this.. will drop my z170/6700k to my small brother and order the asus x99 Strix or the Rampage also if the price for the 6850k good i will go with that..

you will gain 4 thread's and Quad memory channel.. also the 16X on your SLI setup thumb.gif
thumb.gif nice of you to join dark. My only worry with this is the performance gain from quad channel memory and additional cores may very well be offset by the lack of core speed. Reviews already show that in some games the performance actually decreases with x99 over the 6700k. For non gaming video editing etc this is a no brainier but while I do video editing this rid is mostly for gaming. It's more of an enthusiast build way more powerful than it needs to be haha.


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The 6850K is a $1000 cpu!

Hyperthreading threads are really only good for like 10-20% perf boost, and I believe there are still apps the run better with HT disabled. So adding 2c/4t is all about adding the extra 2 cores.

So you get 2 more cores. That's great. But seriously go find some benchmarks between 8x and 16x for bandwidth. It's really an almost non-existent performance boost.

So if you want to go drop 1080SLI money on upgrading your CPU+platform for gaming, you might even go backwards with the clock speed loss. The extra 2 core will only be helpful if you do encoding or other multi-threaded heavy tasks.
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thumb.gif nice of you to join dark. My only worry with this is the performance gain from quad channel memory and additional cores may very well be offset by the lack of core speed. Reviews already show that in some games the performance actually decreases with x99 over the 6700k. For non gaming video editing etc this is a no brainier but while I do video editing this rid is mostly for gaming. It's more of an enthusiast build way more powerful than it needs to be haha.


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Well I can comment on this..

this happen to me last year.. was using 4790k and 970 SLI when the 5820k out.. then I upgrade to 5820k with Quad channel memory kit.. the performance pump was very good even at the stock 3.6Ghz on the 5820k while the 4790k was at 4.6ghz..

the 6 core barely reach 50% usage in most games.. while the 6700k hit more than 70% in some games and start stutter with 2 card's...

keep in mind get the fastest memory kit for the 6850k.. i'm thinking about the Trident-Z 3200 C14 or C13 ... or maybe the new Dom Plat if the CL tight enough thumb.gif

also the cpu at 4.2ghz should be fast as the 6700k @4.6ghz on games wink.gif
   
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The 6850K is a $1000 cpu!

Hyperthreading threads are really only good for like 10-20% perf boost, and I believe there are still apps the run better with HT disabled. So adding 2c/4t is all about adding the extra 2 cores.

So you get 2 more cores. That's great. But seriously go find some benchmarks between 8x and 16x for bandwidth. It's really an almost non-existent performance boost.

So if you want to go drop 1080SLI money on upgrading your CPU+platform for gaming, you might even go backwards with the clock speed loss. The extra 2 core will only be helpful if you do encoding or other multi-threaded heavy tasks.

6800k replace the 5820k and the price is 450$
6850k replace the 5930k and the price is 650$
6900k replace the 5960x and the price is 1050$

the new 6950x with stupid price which 1800$
   
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thumb.gif nice of you to join dark. My only worry with this is the performance gain from quad channel memory and additional cores may very well be offset by the lack of core speed. Reviews already show that in some games the performance actually decreases with x99 over the 6700k. For non gaming video editing etc this is a no brainier but while I do video editing this rid is mostly for gaming. It's more of an enthusiast build way more powerful than it needs to be haha.


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Well I can comment on this..

this happen to me last year.. was using 4790k and 970 SLI when the 5820k out.. then I upgrade to 5820k with Quad channel memory kit.. the performance pump was very good even at the stock 3.6Ghz on the 5820k while the 4790k was at 4.6ghz..

the 6 core barely reach 50% usage in most games.. while the 6700k hit more than 70% in some games and start stutter with 2 card's...

keep in mind get the fastest memory kit for the 6850k.. i'm thinking about the Trident-Z 3200 C14 or C13 ... or maybe the new Dom Plat if the CL tight enough thumb.gif

also the cpu at 4.2ghz should be fast as the 6700k @4.6ghz on games wink.gif
Yeah I agree it should be equal and in some games may provide a healthy boost having the additional power under the hood. Overall the upgrade after selling my existing board will cost right at $800 but that doesn't include the $400+ for the ram kit (which I plan to get the Z 3200 CL13) out of the gate I'll be running only 2 8 gb sticks while I save for a new full kit. It's a ton of money for sure but doing it now give me time to save for the 1080ti sli. Can't say I won't smile wide every time I look at my computer running the 6850K rampage v edition 10 and two 1080tis under custom water blocks wink.gif


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6 core barely reach 50% usage in most games.. while the 6700k hit more than 70% in some games and start stutter with 2 card's...
You're thinking of this wrong.

You have 1 thread that's maxed out on 1 core and a bunch of other thread sucking up free resources. The 5820K will always show more free CPU because the auxiliary threads won't soak up a whole cpu. So because you have unused cores you see more free CPU time. Even if you were CPU limited, in those cases you'll still be limited by single threaded perf, so CPU usage is the wrong metric to look at. 1 full pegged CPU core is only 8.3% CPU usage.

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the cpu at 4.2ghz should be fast as the 6700k @4.6ghz on games wink.gif
Because we know for a fact that a single skylake core at 4.6ghz does a lot more work than a Haswell core at 4.2ghz, this statement effectively means CPU is irrelevant for gaming. What may also be true is a Sandy Bridge at 4.8ghz may perform the same in gaming.


Games are predominately GPU limited. Get more GPU save your money on the CPU.
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6800k replace the 5820k and the price is 450$
6850k replace the 5930k and the price is 650$
6900k replace the 5960x and the price is 1050$

the new 6950x with stupid price which 1800$

My bad I got tripped and was thinking 6900K.

I was transfixed on the 4 thread statement, and by the time I realized you meant 2c/4t, I forgot to go back and edit the pricing.
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