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Shame not seeing a Zowie in there. Really feel you're overreacting on the ec2, specially if you never tried it before.
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Shame not seeing a Zowie in there. Really feel you're overreacting on the ec2, specially if you never tried it before.
Still: its not available at the moment.
At least in my region.
post #43 of 47
Looking for a palm grip mouse and you pick a Castor and a G303? You need to have ridiculously small paws to palm a Castor, the G303 is just an overall bad match for that grip.
Try a IE3.0, Qpad 8k optical, the old MX518(G400,G400s), Rival 300. These are pretty good palm grip mice.
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post #44 of 47
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Thanks for the info! thumb.gif
I have just turned its CPI down and it feels by far much more responsive! Thats another + for the DA Chroma.
The ZA12 would be an option but I think I am more after a right-handed design.
Too bad that Zowie doesn't offer a proper one with good built quality at the moment...
What about the side buttons and the scroll wheel?
The wheel looks the same as for the G303 at least... which didn't convince me so far.
Yeah Zowie only has the right handed EC series which is kind of subpar in terms of design quality. They are also only for medium sized hands, they would need to make an EC0 for large hands.
Too bad I didn't take notes from last weekend when testing mice, yes the wheel is the same as no G303 IMHO. But for me I can kind of rule out a mouse rather fast, the general ergonomics and common issues. Maybe I swipe left right and notice it drags on the pad, or I angle it a little and it starts to drag on the pad, that's a nono for me, or the side buttons on logitechs Gx02s side and top next to LMB, no thanks can get in the way. G502 is freakin heavy I do remember that now the G402 is so much better IMHO. It might just no fit my large hand.
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Looking for a palm grip mouse and you pick a Castor and a G303? You need to have ridiculously small paws to palm a Castor, the G303 is just an overall bad match for that grip.
Try a IE3.0, Qpad 8k optical, the old MX518(G400,G400s), Rival 300. These are pretty good palm grip mice.
IE3.0 is not sold for years now, same with MX518.
Rival 300 is nice and large but I didn't like it much and I do prefer to have more height on the right side which the ambi mice have but right hand only don't frown.gif I think it dragged on the surface because the bottom had sharp edges and without software installed I wasn't impressed by the mouse settings either. It's ok if it fits you and you can set it right. Rival 100 is smaller.
post #45 of 47
One option to consider is the CM storm Alcor (or the laser version Mizar), it is very similar to the EC2-A but it has better buttons it is lighter and costs half the price. In fact I think it is the lightest palm grip mouse you can find. Only thing I dislike about this mouse is that the thumb side is more concave than the EC2, and I prefer flatter thumb sides or thumb grips, also the apex on EC is more towards the center so it is a bit better for palm, but Alcor is better for claw and still nice for palm.

The 3090 sensor on this one has high LOD but that doesn't bother me much, It also has a tiny bit of negative accel. Im still trying to find a palm grip mouse lighter than 87 grams but seems there is no such thing. (Besides the ****ty FinalMouse) For now Alcor will be my main mouse and I tried a lot of them (EC2 AM, DA 4g, KPM, SS Kana, Rival 100 and 300, Asus Gladius)

I still want to try out the Mionix Naos 7000, Zowie FK1/2, G302 , Xtrify MG-2 but I am afraid they will be a waste of money for palm and weight balance.

One thing I noticed is that the Rival 300 was the only ergo mouse that made my hand perfectly straight without rotating the sensor slightly, this mouse seemed to gave me tiny better aim/accuracy with pistols, but the scroll is too far back and the really long length and thin grip position felt weird. Also main buttons feel a lot different softer but somehow worse than Zowies.

As for the pads i can only play on high friction ones while still giving a "smooth" feeling. I am still trying to find a pad slower than QcK, I found out that Zowie P-SR "feels" faster than QcK but seems to stop movement as good as QcK or even better, so for me this is the best pad I ever tried, but anything faster than QcK is worthless for me.
post #46 of 47
Don't bother with Naos, it's made to only fit the hand of a person they used to make the mold. Coating doesn't last 1 day you can just rip it off with a nail, buttons terrible, ergonomics awful, buttons are thing inside side grooves awful and annoying. While on pictures it looks ergonomic that's the problem, it's too much plus other bad design choices.
Had it, didn't like it, returned it while still returnable before the coating goes off.
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Don't bother with Naos, it's made to only fit the hand of a person they used to make the mold. Coating doesn't last 1 day you can just rip it off with a nail, buttons terrible, ergonomics awful, buttons are thing inside side grooves awful and annoying. While on pictures it looks ergonomic that's the problem, it's too much plus other bad design choices.
Had it, didn't like it, returned it while still returnable before the coating goes off.
Looks like you had a faulty model.
Of course, the shape isn't everyones cup of tea (mine only for maybe 85%) but the overall quality is really great on this mouse. The clicks feel responsive and tactile, nothing to complain about in my case.
The coating is a bit vulnerable for sweat. You can see some spots after usage but they can easily be washed off. And even after two years of everyday usage the coating didn't peel off in any way. Clicks are still quite crisp considering the intensity of usage.

Tried the CM Alcor before I had the Naos but I couldn't really deal with its shape. Buttons and general built quality weren't that great, as well.

Currently I tend to stay with the DA Chroma. I really like the shape and the responsiveness of the side buttons and scroll wheel.
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