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Looks its your main argument for spending hundreds on a new motherboard? K.

please, you're taking things out of context. The extra pci-e and I/O is a big deal.

going from 20 lanes to 24 lanes doesn't seem like a big deal, but it is and here is why. Crossfire/sli setup will use 16x lanes leaving you with only x4 lanes left. Meaning you can only use one pci-e express ssd in a system with 2 gpus. Adding that extra 4 lanes allows for an additional pci-e ssd to be used (even raid). Or it allows you to setup a raid 5 array using nothing but pci-e ssd's and still have one gpu.

the extra usb 3.0/3.1 is welcomed as well. I mean the msi board has like 10 usb 3.0 ports.
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please, you're taking things out of context. The extra pci-e and I/O is a big deal.

going from 20 lanes to 24 lanes doesn't seem like a big deal, but it is and here is why. Crossfire/sli setup will use 16x lanes leaving you with only x4 lanes left. Meaning you can only use one pci-e express ssd in a system with 2 gpus. Adding that extra 4 lanes allows for an additional pci-e ssd to be used (even raid). Or it allows you to setup a raid 5 array using nothing but pci-e ssd's and still have one gpu.

the extra usb 3.0/3.1 is welcomed as well. I mean the msi board has like 10 usb 3.0 ports.

Eh, Gigabyte already has a board with 3 pci-e m.2 slots, so if thats your main argument you can just buy that board. Who the hell needs 10 usb ports, let alone ten 3.0 ports. My cheap z97 has four 3.0 in the back plus the header. So 6 total. Go find me 10 things that require usb 3.0 that need to all be plugged in all the time.

Not to mention you can run gpus in slots only running 8x. Its been proven time and time again even running a titanX at 8x makes no difference.
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Eh, Gigabyte already has a board with 3 pci-e m.2 slots, so if thats your main argument you can just buy that board. Who the hell needs 10 usb ports, let alone ten 3.0 ports. My cheap z97 has four 3.0 in the back plus the header. So 6 total. Go find me 10 things that require usb 3.0 that need to all be plugged in all the time.

they did but you cannot use all 3 at once if you have a gpu installed.

I would use all 10 of those usb ports. My headset, webcam, blu-ray drive, keyboard, mouse, usb thumb drives, digital camera, camera, various dongles for software

just because you don't see a reason to have that many doesn't mean people won't use them.
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post #24 of 55
I wouldn't be surprised if Zen matches Haswell IPC, the bigger questions for me are how well it overclocks, and whether it supports quad channel DDR4.
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they did but you cannot use all 3 at once if you have a gpu installed.

I would use all 10 of those usb ports. My headset, webcam, blu-ray drive, keyboard, mouse, usb thumb drives, digital camera, camera, various dongles for software

just because you don't see a reason to have that many doesn't mean people won't use them.

Its not that I dont see a point to using them. Its that I dont see the point to needing all that plugged in at once. I can unplug something. Maybe you're more willing to spend extra to never have to unplug a usb cable. Which you have every right too.
post #26 of 55
I hope AMD do demo Zen, now that Intel's released Broadwell-E we need to see some competition from AMD, I'd personally love to have an 8 core Zen if it can at least rival the 5820K / 5930K and is around $300 - $500 AUD.
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post #27 of 55
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Its not that I dont see a point to using them. Its that I dont see the point to needing all that plugged in at once. I can unplug something. Maybe you're more willing to spend extra to never have to unplug a usb cable. Which you have every right too.

In case you haven't been out of your house lately, there are more people than just you using computers in the world. Your use case does not dictate what the industry does.
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In case you haven't been out of your house lately, there are more people than just you using computers in the world. Your use case does not dictate what the industry does.

Of coarse not, but I find it silly how people justify spending an extra few hundred to not have to unplug things. Now as to the extra pci-3 lanes, that is a nice thing. But you could still run the video card in a 8x slot(which has been proven to make no difference) and still be able to use all 3 pci-e m.2 slots on that z170.

And SLI/xfire has been diminishing over the years.

If you truly need 2 gpus and a pci-e raid then yeah the 200 series boards are a welcome. My point was there are workarounds. Often very simple and cheap ones.

Next time maybe bring some actual arguments to the discussion instead of just insults and hostility.
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Of coarse not, but I find it silly how people justify spending an extra few hundred to not have to unplug things. Now as to the extra pci-3 lanes, that is a nice thing. But you could still run the video card in a 8x slot(which has been proven to make no difference) and still be able to use all 3 pci-e m.2 slots on that z170.

And SLI/xfire has been diminishing over the years.

If you truly need 2 gpus and a pci-e raid then yeah the 200 series boards are a welcome. My point was there are workarounds. Often very simple and cheap ones.

Next time maybe bring some actual arguments to the discussion instead of just insults and hostility.

Why do you care so much what others spend money on? You said you don't, but then proceeded to try and argue with anyone who wanted a product that you don't want to spend money on it. If they have the money, and don't want workarounds, just let them buy the damn thing and give it a rest.
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Why do you care so much what others spend money on? You said you don't, but then proceeded to try and argue with anyone who wanted a product that you don't want to spend money on it. If they have the money, and don't want workarounds, just let them buy the damn thing and give it a rest.

lol, I never said I cared or didnt care how people spent their money. All I was doing was questioning why he would make such a purchase. His first argument was it looked cool. Then it was the USB ports and pci-e lanes. The pci-e lanes are valid if you need them. The USB are valid if you always have to have 12 things plugged in all the time. (which I doubt)

I really just wanted to see where his argument would go because the initial reason was so silly. I mean, he has every right to purchase the board for looks, but dont try to hide it under another reason to justify it. Just admit its silly and move on. I've bought things based on looks, everyone has.

Why you cared so much I dont know, nor do I care. I was just trying to amuse myself and maybe make his admit his reasoning was silly.

Take Care.
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