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Hopefully by then nV will have sorted out whatever the issue with GP104 stocks is. If GP102 does launch mid-2017, HBM2 will have been in production for quite a while, so memory at least shouldn't be an issue like it might be for the 1080.

Hopefully they don't have their issues sorted so the market becomes more competitive like the old days.
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That's interesting, but you do have to consider that where the power footprint that the 980 TI's at, it's sucking up a whole lot more OC'd than the 1080 at stock.

That's about 100w difference at the socket. I know what you're going to say, but the 480 should be cheaper to run than say an overclocked 390x. While true, I still can't see anyone who has a 970 or 390/390x sidegrading for lower power consumption. It's very rare for someone on a 770 to go for a 960 or 380x.

The only place the 1080 fails at is the price gouging by both the markets and AIBs. Anyways, we've got actual benchmark results to preview and compare with what's currently available on the market. I for one would love to confirm what the guy with the 12k GPU score on the 970 is running his card at.



Another 970 getting 13k graphics score. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6547911
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6463179

Again, recent GTX 980 firestrike results for comparison would be nice.

What is it with you guys that you don't understand market segmentation and position? Of course its rare for somebody to trade in a flagship level card for a new entry level one. Read this very carefully: The RX 480 was never intended to be a replacement for people running on current high end hardware like the 390X, 980, Fury X, etc. This is a card that is designed to be an upgrade for people on older hardware like Kepler/Tahiti, or those who are upgrading from previous low-tier cards like the 370X or a GTX 950...
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What is it with you guys that you don't understand market segmentation and position? Of course its rare for somebody to trade in a flagship level card for a new entry level one. Read this very carefully: The RX 480 was never intended to be a replacement for people running on current high end hardware like the 390X, 980, Fury X, etc. This is a card that is designed to be an upgrade for people on older hardware like Kepler/Tahiti, or those who are upgrading from previous low-tier cards like the 370X or a GTX 950...

Agreed, but the best way to show the card as a failure is to move the goal posts, show that AMD doesn't make it to the now moved posts, lambaste it for not making it to the goal posts it was never aimed at and then profit.
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Why bother with firestrike? It is part of the Nvidia play book to denigrate the 480, along with the people who now use performance /mm2 as a metric. As far as I know in a few days we will have game benches which depending on the review site will provide us with a clearer picture.
Lol, that's me who started the perf/mm^2, and I said more than 10 times that this is irrelevant to the consumer. It's just me questioning what is going on with AMD.

It's an engineering question, not intended to detract from the RX 480 as a product.
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Who cares about perf/mm², it's perf/inch that counts.
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Funny thing is a couple weeks ago most of these guys were in fact agreeing that a $200 480 with 980 performance would be a fantastic entry into the marketplace. But now as the card is about to release they of course have to start dumping all over it.

Personally I think it's going to be exciting to see what AMD releases as the 490. Whether it's Vega or another Polaris variant, imagine if they built a chip as big as GP 104? Some people act as though the 480 is the best and only card that AMD is going to offer this generation, LOL! rolleyes.gif
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Lol, that's me who started the perf/mm^2, and I said more than 10 times that this is irrelevant to the consumer. It's just me questioning what is going on with AMD.

It's an engineering question, not intended to detract from the RX 480 as a product.

You keep referring to this engineering question with your remarks. But do you not agree that if you were an engineer designing a chip to fit into the budget retail space of around $200 that you may not pull out all of the stops in extracting the most absolute performance that you could possibly squeeze out of it? Perhaps you might even save some of those improvements for the higher performance cards that you are planning to release later on?

This is why market position and price is absolutely crucial to the question that you keep asking. I can't figure out why you don't see that honestly.
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You keep referring to this engineering question with your remarks. But do you not agree that if you were an engineer designing a chip to fit into the budget retail space of around $200 that you may not pull out all of the stops in extracting the most absolute performance that you could possibly squeeze out of it? Perhaps you might even save some of those improvements for the higher performance cards that you are planning to release later on?

This is why market position and price is absolutely crucial to the question that you keep asking. I can't figure out why you don't see that honestly.
If they could make a smaller chip with the same performamce, they would.
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It is only 1-2 days from release, why people are still base on "leak'' benchmark trying to prove whether it beat 970/980 or not?

take a break wait 2 more days. go out
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I wonder if at the MSRP this will be a worth while upgrade over my 280x Toxic...
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