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Originally Posted by littlestereo View Post

If these benches are real a high end 480 is going toe to toe with the 1070 for $100 less, Nvidia is about to cannibalize the entire binned 1080 aka 1070 if they try and undercut the 480 with the 1060.

No, from what we have been shown, the RX480 is not even close to a 1070. The rumors have been half validatated and the card is similar to R9-390X / GTX980. The 1070 is equal or slightly above a 980 Ti. Rumors say this is 30% difference in performance.

The 1060 is said to be cut down and will feature only 6GB, if the rumors are true. Nvidia could undercut AMD in price. Here we need validated tests to make an recommendation for anything.
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The only thing I want to know is will it eat the Fury X if it can actually OC? Or are we looking at max clock/ OC in the Videocardz benches and Kyle from [H]'s analysis might actually have some merit? Too many questions. What if they brought a gddr5x version to the lineup? Potential 490? So many questions... but they definitely beat expectations and **** on Capsacin. As a shareholder I'm pumped with this play.

In all honesty we still practically know nothing. The NDA for AMD holds till the end of June. This means availability will not be given untill at least July. I am so sick of playing the waiting game.
post #522 of 1250
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Lisa said the price range is 2-300, raja only cited performance for 250 and below cards assuming the double is made up of 250 cards leaving a window for a $300 version with another .5 Tflop of running room. I think thats toe to toe with 1070 especially with a month of driver improvements and clock tuning. Fury X had a rough go at launch but after 3 months of driver optimizations it was punching toe to toe with 980ti at 4k. I think we can expect the same here. 1070 might still hold the crown especially with OC but stock on stock 480's highest version very well could be at the same level as a stock 1070.

If this card is faster than both 390x and 980 at $200 its a winner.
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Oh, you've got a comprehensive overview of the Polaris range with performance reviews? Tell me all about it Doc Brown. Of course, going by our incomplete picture I'd say there is more evidence to the contrary than there is to support your contention.
I had second thoughts when I saw Raja holding C7 CF beating 1080 in dx12 chart
Looked promising, but I think they're intentionally avoiding dx11 single card performance.
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It's not only about power consumption but the generated heat. Fermi had some serious problems with the 40nm node from TSMC. My take back then when AMd come upd with the 200-series went in the direction, that I claimed the Radeons use too much voltage. But if a 1.08 GHz core is already at roughtly 150W TDP, then the story of Kyle Bennet from [H] could be true. Crank up those clocks and you have another spaceheater.
AFAIK that was the 1080. The average for the 1070 is said to be under 180W power consumption. I did read that in the PCPer 1070 reviw. But I will not cement this until the AIB cards are tested.

According to this.

1070 Max Gaming Power Consumption: 242W
1080 Max Gaming Power Consumption: 274W

You're citing total system consumption from that wccftech article.
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As you can see for yourselves, the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 is not only faster than the GeForce GTX Titan X but it does so with much lower power consumption. A GeForce GTX 960 system sips 227W of power on max and 61 W at idle load. A GeForce GTX 1070 system sips in 224W at maximum gaming and 61W at idle load. The GM200 based cards consumed over 120W more power on the same system configuration but the GeForce GTX 1070 is really a class apart.


http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1070_review,8.html
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/GeForce-GTX-1070-8GB-Founders-Edition-Review/PC-Perspective-Advanced-Power-Te
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/72689-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-review-17.html

Note that HardwareCanucks measures power usage for the entire system so the 205W rise at load is split over all components. Have to also take into account PSU efficiency for Guru3D and HWC as they're measured at the wall.
The numbers hover right around the 150W number if you taken the above into account.
Edited by Vowels - 5/31/16 at 10:52pm
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If this card is faster than both 390x and 980 at $200 its a winner.

This is not really believable with 2304 Shaders of the 480. Maybe the 480X could reach above 390X with full 2560 shaders. The RX480 is maybe a R9-390 replacement. The full chip should be in range between 390X and any Fury.

The $200 could be mislieading too.
It is the MSRP only. Count taxes and other fees onto it and think of the price as an 4GB card. The big 8GB modell will ad mor. We talk about a range from $229 to $ $249 for the 4GB version and $269 to $299 for the 8GB one. of course this is depending on the location and the country you live in. Canadians, Australians and guys from India will pay way more than that.
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I did cite PCP with roughly 180W. The Guru3D-one seems realistic to me. With all the OC results floating around there is no clear line right now. As soon as the AIB models for the 1070 launches, we can exclude influences from the FE-cooler.
Edited by Hardware Hoshi - 5/31/16 at 10:54pm
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According to this.

1070 Max Gaming Power Consumption: 242W
1080 Max Gaming Power Consumption: 274W

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According to this.

1070 Max Gaming Power Consumption: 242W
1080 Max Gaming Power Consumption: 274W

Did you miss the part where it states those as *system* numbers tongue.gif

TPU's 1080FE review correctly measures GPU power consumption under gaming loads, and they measured 184W.

See it for yourself here:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080
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This is not really believable with 2304 Shaders of the 480. Maybe the 480X could reach above 390X with full 2560 shaders. The RX480 is maybe a R9-390 replacement. The full chip should be in range between 390X and any Fury.

The $200 could be mislieading too.
It is the MSRP only. Count taxes and other fees onto it and think of the price as an 4GB card. The big 8GB modell will ad mor. We talk about a range from $229 to $ $249 for the 4GB version and $269 to $299 for the 8GB one. of course this is depending on the location and the country you live in. Canadians, Australians and guys from India will pay way more than that.

The RX 480 is the full p10 chip isnt it. I thought there is no RX 480X.

The c7 in 3dmark which is the rx 480 is faster than 980

polaris mught have better ipc as compared to fury and 390x
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No, from what we have been shown, the RX480 is not even close to a 1070. The rumors have been half validatated and the card is similar to R9-390X / GTX980. The 1070 is equal or slightly above a 980 Ti. Rumors say this is 30% difference in performance.

The 1060 is said to be cut down and will feature only 6GB, if the rumors are true. Nvidia could undercut AMD in price. Here we need validated tests to make an recommendation for anything.
In all honesty we still practically know nothing. The NDA for AMD holds till the end of June. This means availability will not be given untill at least July. I am so sick of playing the waiting game.

Anyways, Polaris effectively killed the market for secondhand cards - I want a good solid 1080p card and it looks as though I can get a new one for $199.
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Originally Posted by Hardware Hoshi View Post

No, from what we have been shown, the RX480 is not even close to a 1070. The rumors have been half validatated and the card is similar to R9-390X / GTX980. The 1070 is equal or slightly above a 980 Ti. Rumors say this is 30% difference in performance..

If Steve Burke is correct, we haven't been shown everything. One of the cards is suppose to compete with the 1070.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoSvTT9_x8w
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