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If you can afford 1000$ VR sets, I don't see why you will not take a 379$ 1070 with way better performance, no need to go multi-gpu with GP104.
VR for masses is a marketing trick from AMD to hide the facts that they can't compete in other segment than mainstream.
VR is not ready for masses though, it's a small niche market right now.

This is something I've been pondering about since AMD mentioned the "TAM". Of the people buying this $199 GPU, what percentage realistically has the money to also buy a $599 Oculus Rift (+ Touch controllers later) or a $799 HTC Vive but not the money to pay the extra $179 for a 1070?
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Did you ignore all the posts showing you benchmarks that the 1070 drawing its stated TDP +/- 10W. It never draws what its power connectors are maximally spec'd for.

161W at the wall (less after PSU efficiencies are accounted for)
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1070_review,8.html

Nope, but they don't say that's maximum Watt usage either, they say it's TDP, which isn't actually the maximum amount of power draw. This is a measurement of maximum power draw. Now, I don't expect everyone to know the difference between TDP and maximum power draw, but one can always go do a bit of research.
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Did you ignore all the posts showing you benchmarks that the 1070 drawing its stated TDP +/- 10W. It never draws what its power connectors are maximally spec'd for.

161W at the wall (less after PSU efficiencies are accounted for)
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1070_review,8.html


161w from the card. It draws 10 MORE watts than the 970,before overclocking and we all know the 970 can draw up to 230w or so when you remove the power limiter. The 1070 is also almost a third larger than the AMD chip,so AMD seems to be much better in terms of performance per watt.
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what i learn today - every product cheaper than 350$ is a marketing trick and nobody buys it. those 80+% people are a lie. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post

That's because AMD pushes their cards much more with the 390x vs the gtx 980, which results in the tremendous gap in performance per watt. Also the gtx 980 is bottlenecked big time because of it's memory bandwidth.

And this post was relating specifically the performance delta between polaris 10 to gp104 is going to be similar to the performance delta between a gtx 980 vs 380x. The gp104 when normalized with the polaris 10 die size(taking into account the increased transistor density of 14nm finfet vs 16nm) share striking similarities with that relationship. A gtx 980 is about 40-50% faster than a 380x.

If a polaris 10 chip is as fast as a 390x/980, a 1080x will be 50+% faster than it like Tonga vs gm104.

what i said is you can't use only one chip to represent the whole AMD's lineup.

if you think AMD pushed 390X too hard to squeeze every performance from it, what about the 780Ti ? it has comparable or even worse perf/watt in some cases than Hawaii cards with much more transistors and massive die size.

what is your opinion about 780Ti ? a garbage ???

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Originally Posted by Travieso View Post

what i said is you can't use only one chip to represent the whole AMD's lineup.

if you think AMD pushed 390X too hard to squeeze every performance from it, what about the 780Ti ? it has comparable or even worse perf/watt in some cases than Hawaii cards with much more transistors and massive die size.

what is your opinion about 780Ti ? a garbage ???

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a guy who compares oc nvidia card to uc amd card, what more you can expect from him lol ?
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Originally Posted by Olivon View Post

If you can afford 1000$ VR sets, I don't see why you will not take a 379$ 1070 with way better performance, no need to go multi-gpu with GP104.
VR for masses is a marketing trick from AMD to hide the facts that they can't compete in other segment than mainstream.
VR is not ready for masses though, it's a small niche market right now.

It's still great value for the performance, VR or not.
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Originally Posted by EightDee8D View Post

a guy who compares oc nvidia card to uc amd card, what more you can expect from him lol ?

How's that prediction of Polaris 10 having gtx 980 ti performance look now? rolleyes.gif
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may i ask you about your opinion of that garbage 780Ti ?
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Originally Posted by Redwoodz View Post

161w from the card. It draws 10 MORE watts than the 970,before overclocking and we all know the 970 can draw up to 230w or so when you remove the power limiter. The 1070 is also almost a third larger than the AMD chip,so AMD seems to be much better in terms of performance per watt.

It's because most people don't know the difference between TDP and maximum power draw. AMD always uses maximum power draw which you can tell from the fact they rate the 480 at 150W which is 75W 6-pin connect + 75W PCI-e.
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