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Still no leaks?
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Still no leaks?
Reviewers apparently get the cards on the 10th, so that's the earliest a leak would happen.
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Reviewers apparently get the cards on the 10th, so that's the earliest a leak would happen.

You're assuming the only people who leak things are reviewers?
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480 is already projected to be above 390, and somewhere under 390x

According to Elric from Tech of Tomorrow.

This is a bit silly isn't it.

There is like a 5-7% performance gap between the 390 and 390X, so he's predicting performance within a margin that is so small that he's likely talking nonsense.
    
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This is a bit silly isn't it.

There is like a 5-7% performance gap between the 390 and 390X, so he's predicting performance within a margin that is so small that he's likely talking nonsense.

 

Exactly. The hair-splitting betwixt 390/390x/980 is so silly to me. It's in that performance milieu, I think we're all reasonably certain of that.

     
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I was thinking of getting the 480, but really I don't see it as THAT big of an improvement over my 290. And I just got the 290 for $180.

Now the $300-350 range from AMD is what I am waiting for.
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If we take the 2.8x performance/watt improvement figure by AMD literally, and apply that to say an MSI R9 390X, we get exactly the same performance as a 390X with a usage of around 92W.

If we assume the figure is exaggerated a bit, and the 480 uses around 120W and has the exact same performance of the 390X, the performance per watt improvement would be 2.1-2.2. I guess that would be reasonable.
If we assume only the 1.7x improvement figure due to FinFET, we come exactly at the 150W TDP of the 480, with the performance of the 390X as a basis.

Considering cards need a margin below their max power usage, and the improvement is 'up to 2.8x', I think it's not unreasonable to expect at least 390X performance from the 480 since we can quite confidently say that it will be at least higher than 'only' the 1.7x performance per watt, closer to maybe 2.1 realistically. Furthermore... If AMD has not been deceptive with its 2.8x number at all, it might even be justifiable to conclude that it won't be (much) less performance than an R9 Fury (non-X) in performance.
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If we take the 2.8x performance/watt improvement figure by AMD literally, and apply that to say an MSI R9 390X, we get exactly the same performance as a 390X with a usage of around 92W.

If we assume the figure is exaggerated a bit, and the 480 uses around 120W and has the exact same performance of the 390X, the performance per watt improvement would be 2.1-2.2. I guess that would be reasonable.
If we assume only the 1.7x improvement figure due to FinFET, we come exactly at the 150W TDP of the 480, with the performance of the 390X as a basis.

Considering cards need a margin below their max power usage, and the improvement is 'up to 2.8x', I think it's not unreasonable to expect at least 390X performance from the 480 since we can quite confidently say that it will be at least higher than 'only' the 1.7x performance per watt, closer to maybe 2.1 realistically. Furthermore... If AMD has not been deceptive with its 2.8x number at all, it might even be justifiable to conclude that it won't be (much) less performance than an R9 Fury (non-X) in performance.
What's the worst perf/watt card AMD has on the market?

That would probably be what they're comparing it to. Because marketing.
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You're assuming the only people who leak things are reviewers?
The more cards in the wild, the higher the chances. AMD has been keeping a pretty tight lid on things, so I don't believe we'll get any true leaks until cards are in the wild. I'm almost certain that the "leaked" benchmarks we've been seeing are intentional. Smoke and mirrors.
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What's the worst perf/watt card AMD has on the market?

That would probably be what they're comparing it to. Because marketing.

AMD had a slide where 28nm (2015) was 1x P/W and Polaris (2016) was 2.5x. I believe the 28nm chip to be the 285.
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Releasing something inferior to something that was just released by your competitor -_- terrible marketing on AMD's side. I just hope they stay true to their compute performance. If the 1080 can get a net worth of $1800 LTC a month then I hope three 480's can pull at least 20% more.
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