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No thanks. I don't want these to be built into the CPU. Not only will it add to the cost but also adds another component that can and will fail.
So then we should put the memory controller and all PCI-e lanes back on a northbridge to cut costs and reduce failures? tongue.gif Honestly, though, I don't see much of a problem with it.
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I'll do you one better, how about mobos with a stacked set of them built in? Or imagine Intel building one into a CPU in Optane format on its own dedicated memory channel.
No thanks. I don't want these to be built into the CPU. Not only will it add to the cost but also adds another component that can and will fail.

But the latency reduction of having it on-chip is just... drool.gif
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I'm always impressed by engineering feats like this. Now it just needs to get cheap tongue.gif (although this is probably aimed at the professional market).
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neat, but when are we getting decent priced storage SSDs? i don't need tiny or fast, i just need affordable 4TB SSD so i can retire my annoying loud HDDs.
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neat, but when are we getting decent priced storage SSDs? i don't need tiny or fast, i just need affordable 4TB SSD so i can retire my annoying loud HDDs.
I think even 512GB @ the price of 1TB HDD is now is good enough.

until then i am sticking on HDD.
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SSDs have already surpassed HDDs in density. Price is still significantly higher, and there are some concerns about data integrity. Really only a matter of time. It seems that SSDs will eventually make HDDs completely obsolete. Very impressive.

not quite, tape-drives still exists and are still very popular, HDDs will go the same route as that.

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So then we should put the memory controller and all PCI-e lanes back on a northbridge to cut costs and reduce failures? tongue.gif Honestly, though, I don't see much of a problem with it.

NAND has write-cycle limitations, DRAM doesn't. unless you want a CPU that expires prematurely, then no.
even on a motherboard, i wouldn't like a non-replaceable device attached to it, specially when it can expire in a few years of usage.


on the other hand, if they design these NAND chips to function along with DRAM sticks, then all those unused DDR3/4 slots can be filled up with NAND sticks.
e.g. 2x8GB DDR4 + 2x1TB NAND sticks



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not quite, tape-drives still exists and are still very popular, HDDs will go the same route as that.

Magnetic tape is still used because it has the distinct advantage of having a 30 year optimal shelf life. HDD's don't have any distinctive advantages that make them useful to anyone over other storage media once the price of SSD's drop.
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Motherboards with a built in OS storage would be awesome, direct connection rather than being restricted by Sata etc
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neat, but when are we getting decent priced storage SSDs? i don't need tiny or fast, i just need affordable 4TB SSD so i can retire my annoying loud HDDs.

Define affordable; that will vary from person to person. Samsung is supposed to be releasing a 4TB 850 EVO soon (I believe it is already being sold in Europe). A few others already have 4TB and larger already released (one is 13TB) but you will pay far more for them.
     
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This is awesome! The shrinking of technology right now is pretty impressive...even for my generation... I can see this being a HUGE benefit for smartphones and tablets. Laptops maybe not so much because the NVME or m.2 size drives are already small enough for modern laptops at this point in time...

I'm already planning on ditching my SATA SSD's once I upgrade to a motherboard that supports m.2.

ITX board... half size (mini) Graphics card, m.2 drive... slim coolers... doesn't get much better for smaller and smaller builds...
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