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Motherboards with a built in OS storage would be awesome, direct connection rather than being restricted by Sata etc

Intel is already looking at putting that on the CPU, forget mobos. Too restrictive to replace and if that's your concern that's what we have M.2 and PCI-e SSDs for.
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the issue with mounting NAND along with the CPU is space, probably gonna be attached like that of eDRAM.
with the size of 2.0x1.6cm, it won't be able to fit with existing 115x dies, it'll stick out of the IHS.

one solution for it is to abandon the square socket and use a rectangular socket.
the other is make the NAND package much smaller, so that i can easily fit inside the IHS's boundary.

on that note, though, i can't justify a large NAND capacity on-package, it wouldn't be replaceable and as such the CPU would have issues regarding longevity.
in a scenario where the NAND fails due to excessive write-cycles, or due to a defect, you'd either have to replace the whole CPU for a functional one, or make-do with a defective NAND.
Edited by epic1337 - 6/1/16 at 6:29am
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the issue with mounting NAND along with the CPU is space, probably gonna be attached like that of eDRAM.
with the size of 2.0x1.6cm, it won't be able to fit with existing 115x dies, it'll stick out of the IHS.

one solution for it is to abandon the square socket and use a rectangular socket.
the other is make the NAND package much smaller, so that i can easily fit inside the IHS's boundary.

on that note, though, i can't justify a large NAND capacity on-package, it wouldn't be replaceable and as such the CPU would have issues regarding longevity.
in a scenario where the NAND fails due to excessive write-cycles, or due to a defect, you'd either have to replace the whole CPU for a functional one, or make-do with a defective NAND.

All of that can be dealt with by using a separate socket.
     
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Nice, SSDs only for me when it comes to my main rigs. and for the successor of my current server.
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Define affordable; that will vary from person to person. Samsung is supposed to be releasing a 4TB 850 EVO soon (I believe it is already being sold in Europe). A few others already have 4TB and larger already released (one is 13TB) but you will pay far more for them.

Huh, I looked that up. I did not know that.
Norway: Samsung 850 EVO Series MZ-75E2T0B 4TB - 14k NOK or about 1700 bux (that's with taxes etc, probably looking at 1300-1400 in the US),
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For me, keep things as modular as possible with maximal speeds. I'd hate to throw away a CPU or mobo with 512GB of high-performance storage.
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For me, keep things as modular as possible with maximal speeds. I'd hate to throw away a CPU or mobo with 512GB of high-performance storage.

I agree. I don't want anything replaceable permanently attached to my motherboard. Wouldn't mind 4 of them on an m.2 card in a raid 0 config though.
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I hate soldered CPUs, let alone soldered NAND SSD.
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Ok, but they solve the heating issue for laptops? You guys do realise SSDs get super hot right?

You think they solved that issue yet?
    
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NAND has write-cycle limitations, DRAM doesn't. unless you want a CPU that expires prematurely, then no.
even on a motherboard, i wouldn't like a non-replaceable device attached to it, specially when it can expire in a few years of usage.
You're drastically underestimating how long standard dual-layer NAND can last. I can see you'd have a point if this was about use in an enterprise environment, but then SLC NAND is usually used there for that reason, anyway.
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