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What does this mean?

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Actually waiting for Vega might not be bad advice. Heard a stream the other day talking about the 1080/1070 launch and compared it to the 970 launch. 970 was such an amazing launch before for the first time that I have personally ever seen, NVidia launched a card that was at a reasonable price point. The streamer pointed out that 390 came out and was at the same price point, as faster or faster with a better memeory sub system. His theory was NVidia knew in the straight up fight the 970 would lose and so cornered the market as fast as they could by surprising the public with the reasonable price point.

1070 is seeing that strategy appear to be in play again. Does this mean NVidia knows something about Vega and is concerned to have a straight up fight so is rushing to a lower price to nullify?

Waiting for Vega might not be a bad idea. 1070 prices will likely fall and with Vega we will have possibly a better choice.

I was actually talking to a friend of mine about this earlier yesterday. The 1080 not meeting the clocks they claimed in their first demo and SLi drivers being completely trash at launch (not to mention no HB bridges available) point to a rushed release to me. I think Nvidia was worried and felt they needed to beat AMD to market. They might know something we don't.
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I was actually talking to a friend of mine about this earlier yesterday. The 1080 not meeting the clocks they claimed in their first demo and SLi drivers being completely trash at launch (not to mention no HB bridges available) point to a rushed release to me. I think Nvidia was worried and felt they needed to beat AMD to market. They might know something we don't.

What i find interesting is it seems there are limitations around how far they can clock and its not all cooling related. I mean air cooled i have heard of up to 2.2 ghz with HOF cards but the same cards with LN2 they are getting just 2.5 .. they were scaling in mhz far better with all forms of cooling on maxwell.

In my opinion the 1080 was pushed further in its clock-able range than 980ti or TX were, you can see that from the ~ 13-15 % gains from the overclocking (with max fan settings) some reviewers are getting - some are getting less.

For interest I looked at a benches on the 1070 vs the TX (ignore the $$ here i'm talking max oc vs max oc - seen as the 1070 is such a titan x killer and all) , it was AOTS and the score was 47fps on the TX stock vs 48fps on the 1070 stock. This was high settings with AA disabled in 4k. So i thought ok , i'll give this a go . Clocked to 1535mhz/4050 mhz on the TX and ran the benchmark .. a whopping 35% ahead of the standard 1070 score. Averaged 65.2 FPS. The review i was reading showed a 13 % increase in clocks for a 2088 mhz boost clock in the overclocking they did - out of three games that was the maximum gain. So if i generously add the 13% to the 1070 AOTS score and its still wayy behind . Infact so was the stock 1080 by about 5 %. Sure its water cooling on a TX (40c temps) .. so yeah I've had this 1070/1080 performance now for over a year . Doesn't make the TX sound that expensive now given it still has more vram still.

Some sites report how geat the 1070/1080 overclocking is , they really just need to think in terms of % increase. Not the level of mhz. eg 2000mhz sounds great, but when its barely 10% above normal boost that's not a great overclock. My 35% vs the 1070s 13% which I'd wager would not improve much if anything with water-cooling.

Nvidia marketing though and the reviewers that lap it up , you gotta love it ...
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Some sites report how geat the 1070/1080 overclocking is , they really just need to think in terms of % increase. Not the level of mhz. eg 2000mhz sounds great, but when its barely 10% above normal boost that's not a great overclock. My 35% vs the 1070s 13% which I'd wager would not improve much if anything with water-cooling.

Nvidia marketing though and the reviewers that lap it up , you gotta love it ...

It's also because they aren't really scaling very well with the clock increase, because the architecture needs higher clocks compared with Maxwell for the same performance to begin with.
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The 5870 was out for 7 months before the GTX480 was released. If you're saying that people should have waited to buy the 5870 then I assume you're also telling people not to buy the 1070/1080 to wait for Vega? kookoo.gif

Not to mention the gtx480 was a disastrous furnace of a card, but nvidias marketing and image is so good its viewed it as a success. The same people that complain that amd cards run too hot. Lawl.
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get enough traction with the RX480 and they might sway the whole market their way.
and pigs will fly
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It costs ~ 400 usd in my country and bitcoiner is going to buy it with ~ 100 unit per person, no hope for end user smile.gif
An Iphone with 1200 usd now with a mid end GPU, so sad for my country
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It costs ~ 400 usd in my country and bitcoiner is going to buy it with ~ 100 unit per person, no hope for end user smile.gif

i wish they cripple it's mining capability.
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i wish they cripple it's mining capability.
I hope so but it is hard frown.gif
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It costs ~ 400 usd in my country and bitcoiner is going to buy it with ~ 100 unit per person, no hope for end user smile.gif
An Iphone with 1200 usd now with a mid end GPU, so sad for my country
"bitcoin miner"

LOL thanks for the laugh. Mining cryptocurrencies on VGA's has been dead since the launch of ASICS and similar. Not to menton that cryptocurrencies are also nothing like before.
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