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Come again? I thought you were discussing power...

you were the one who raised this noise topic first.
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By your own mindset, that p/w chart translates to every measure from noise per performance to performance per watt. Let me assure you, it does not.
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you were the one who raised this noise topic first.
Have you read the explanations underneath it? If your benchmark for "a better cooler heatsink" is "the same design" overall, that won't cut it in more advanced nodes.
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Have you read the explanations underneath it? If your benchmark for "a better cooler heatsink" is "the same design" overall, that won't cut it in more advanced nodes.

What are you smoking ? Techpowerup only use ref card for reference in their chart.
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stop this nonsense please, both of you. smile.gif
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What are you smoking ? Techpowerup only use ref card for reference in their chart.
I don't smoke none other than air pollution.
TPU should show a before and after power threshold benchmark and we will know the truth of the Tahiti Tonga challenge. You impose on me asserting the same defeated argument - Tonga fits within the TDP, Tahiti doesn't - and unless it has been specified upon, that chart isn't revelational for anybody's sake. Regarding the point on p/w, you have nothing to dispute my point and still continue on assuming your conclusion that custom heatsinks will deal with it. I will stand by mine, I have proof. You have none.
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I don't smoke none other than air pollution.
TPU should show a before and after power threshold benchmark and we will know the truth of the Tahiti Tonga challenge. You impose on me asserting the same defeated argument - Tonga fits within the TDP, Tahiti doesn't - and unless it has been specified upon, that chart isn't revelational for anybody's sake. Regarding the point on p/w, you have nothing to dispute my point and still continue on assuming your conclusion that custom heatsinks will deal with it. I will stand by mine, I have proof. You have none.

what's defeated argument ??? this doesn't prove anything.

it was you who had nothing to counter my argument and prove that Tonga wasn't a disappointment like i said earlier.


who cares about whether it fits in TDP or not, if it's barely better than Tahiti in performance and efficiency it's still a disappointment.

and yes, custom heatsink will deal with the noise. some custom cooling like Windforce from Gigabyte operates really quiet, you barely hear the fans even you increase fanspeed to 90%.
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what's defeated argument ??? this doesn't prove anything.

it was you who had nothing to counter my argument and prove that Tonga wasn't a disappointment like i said earlier.


who cares about whether it fits in TDP or not, if it's barely better than Tahiti in performance and efficiency it's still a disappointment.

and yes, custom heatsink will deal with the noise. some custom cooling like Windforce from Gigabyte operates really quiet, you barely hear the fans even you increase fanspeed to 90%.
I'm not here for your emotional assessments, I'm here for facts. You said Tonga didn't improve upon power efficiency, I kind of brought up power thresholding differences and the juxtaposition of their TDP values. They kind of provide the same performance at 1080p. If you want an update to Tahiti, look for none other than Hawaii - Tonga is here for Pitcairn class of gpus which aim to "fit in the budget" rather than be the no holds barred enthusiast cards. You still get the same grade of performance, however it is now a mainstream card now. If you cannot spot the difference, its your own disappointment.
I didn't intend to say custom versions wouldn't be quiet, I meant it as it would still throttle and run hot. The noise profile is related to fans which are located on the radiator side of heat exchange which are unrelated to the issues regarding the heatsink plate.
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Uhh... nope there's no normally marketshare BS 65-75 nV to 35-25 AMD like you said.

AMD reached almost 60% during Fermi era. they lost most of the share from mobile market because that Optimus co-project between nV and intel worked pretty decent at that time. and they had nothing to counter it since they still messed with their mediocre APUs and Kepler gpus from nV were really competitive.

that's why nV took the lead and it's only one generation not usual.


After the release of GM204, AMD priced the completely rebranded Hawaii in a ******* meh... fashion. i still think R9 390/390X would sell if they just priced it at $250-300 or better just lowered the price of 290 series no need to release rebranded versions.

look at this. worse performance/price than the old 290 what a joke !!!
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to make it worse. Tonga the chip that aimed to fill the gap between Tahiti and Hawaii completely failed. it didn't improve efficiency or performance from Tahiti.
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and to make it even worse, they priced the Fury series not competitively at all. the same price as 980Ti but lower performance (even after driver update). WTH !!! who's gonna buy it ???


In conclusion, i think AMD might do well in the past year if they priced the rebranded Hawaii and Fury series right and they made Tonga worked. very little to do with the mining craze. and i haven't seen any person who usually posting BS without any backed up evidence like you.

It's basically around that range. But the fermi range really was no good and had little time on the market. Hence it's one of those situations when it isn't normal. When Both companies have very competitive products with one another, its 2 to 1 ratio as far as sales go.
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It's basically around that range. But the fermi range really was no good and had little time on the market. Hence it's one of those situations when it isn't normal. When Both companies have very competitive products with one another, its 2 to 1 ratio as far as sales go.

not even close to 2:1 and AMD/Ati (even after the merge) never reach 25% marketshare like you said earlier. they only dropped to 20ish marketshare just last year.

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http://pctuning.tyden.cz/component/content/article/1-aktualni-zpravy/41353-radeon-rx480-na-ceste-do-redakce

This website is claiming that they're getting two RX 480's without being bound by an NDA, and they're going to release benchmarks between the 20th and the 24th.
They also claim that there is major stock in stores, and that if you know the right people, you'll be able to get one as early as next week.
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