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He was most likely joking.
I can never tell what AMD fans really believe and whats a joke redface.gif


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tough day for nvidia fans it seems.
you're not wrong, some of us wanted to see the full unveiling/released specs of a real 1070 competitor to give us some more options thumb.gif

alas
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Remember a 1070 are cut down so 314mm2X 0.75= 235.5mm2 about same size as uncut Polaris.(Has 232mm2 Polaris been confirmed?) I doubt it clock as high but still it could be competitive.

The full die is not maked of CUDA cores, there are other parts in the die that remain unchanged. I think more about 270mm2, but Polaris is 14nm, so it's more than 232mm2 if we make it at 16nm. I think the 1070 has and edge, but not by much.

The Polaris is about a 390X/980, so is about 19% worse than a 980Ti (TPU numbers at 1080p), so 25% worse than a 1070 is a good and generous number, I think . If there is a 2560part, it will be what? 12% worse? With OC can surpass the 1070 easily. As was said, AMD has left a good chunk of headroom for OC. 200Mhz more is very likely, I think. If there's no 2560 cores part, a 25% less performing card for 150$ less (about 229 vs 379), that is a 65% more, it is a awesome value.
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With OC can surpass the 1070 easily. As was said, AMD has left a good chunk of headroom for OC. 200Mhz more is very likely, I think.
200 isnt that good, 980Ti OCs for up to 400+ Mhz (and gains 20-25%) and 1080/1070 can go to ~2050 (or maybe 2100+, we'll see) gaining up to +15% performance in OC

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still can compete in p/p
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I can never tell what AMD fans really believe and whats a joke redface.gif

nVidia fan troll rolleyes.gif

You are so close to be the fist person on this forum I will block in all these years. Nice work you are doing thumb.gif
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What happens to this thread ?
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nVidia fan troll rolleyes.gif

You are so close to be the fist person on this forum I will block in all these years. Nice work you are doing thumb.gif
if you dont want to read posts from someone who isnt praising AMD 24/7 then thats your prerogative, m8 thumb.gif
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The full die is not maked of CUDA cores, there are other parts in the die that remain unchanged. I think more about 270mm2, but Polaris is 14nm, so it's more than 232mm2 if we make it at 16nm. I think the 1070 has and edge, but not by much.

The Polaris is about a 390X/980, so is about 19% worse than a 980Ti (TPU numbers at 1080p), so 25% worse than a 1070 is a good and generous number, I think . If there is a 2560part, it will be what? 12% worse? With OC can surpass the 1070 easily. As was said, AMD has left a good chunk of headroom for OC. 200Mhz more is very likely, I think. If there's no 2560 cores part, a 25% less performing card for 150$ less (about 229 vs 379), that is a 65% more, it is a awesome value.

You are forgetting that there is difference between 16nm FinFET and 14nm FinFET LPE and then 14nm FinFET LPP ... the difference equals to more than 10% for sure.
We have proof that 16nm vs 14nm LPE has 9% difference then just plain statemens for LPP being 15% better power efficiency / clocks than LPE but no hard evidence for that.

Correction ... you did not forget the difference smile.gif sorry for trying to correct you but adding the numbers anyway.
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200 isnt that good, 980Ti OCs for up to 400+ Mhz (and gains 20-25%) and 1080/1070 can go to ~2050 (or maybe 2100+, we'll see) gaining up to +15% performance in OC

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still can compete in p/p

How it scales with clock speeds and the IPC are also important. Pure MHz? Not so much.
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200 isnt that good, 980Ti OCs for up to 400+ Mhz (and gains 20-25%) and 1080/1070 can go to ~2050 (or maybe 2100+, we'll see) gaining up to +15% performance in OC

still can compete in p/p

I was talking about stock 1070, but seeing that 1070 can only make a 15% OC, the 1070 will end up being only a mere 10% faster for 65% more price. GG WP AMD. Of course the 980Ti OCs like hell and is better than the 1070 (for now rolleyes.gif), but my OC of 200Mhz I think is conservative and very achievable. We will see how far can go in AIB variants.
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You are forgetting that there is difference between 16nm FinFET and 14nm FinFET LPE and then 14nm FinFET LPP ... the difference equals to more than 10% for sure.
We have proof that 16nm vs 14nm LPE has 9% difference then just plain statemens for LPP being 15% better power efficiency / clocks than LPE but no hard evidence for that.

Correction ... you did not forget the difference smile.gif sorry for trying to correct you but adding the numbers anyway.

LPE is 9% denser than 16nm. To compete, the LPP has to be more than nother 10% denser. I think that that is the best case scenario and the LPP is a refining process more than another jump. Is smaller, but I don't think that much.
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$200 for 980 performance level is incredible and AMD .

I noticed that 1080's are selling for £500-£650 in the UK at the moment. Fair enough it's faster but I know what card I would buy
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