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Great point... so get two 480x's (2 x $250) and still be cheaper than a 1080 or a 1070...!

Right..?

200$x2 480= around 400 euro here.
1080=800 euro
1070=500euro

you do the math.

I also would say its doable to have a crossfire setup 480 for around 200w.
which is frankly pretty awesome. thumb.gif
Edited by flopper - 6/1/16 at 5:35am
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This is surely an exciting card, particularly at $199. If anything this is a segment of the market which needs the biggest shakeup since AMD's lineup within it is filled with rebrands of rebrands. In many ways Polaris is a pipe-cleaning architecture in preparation for 2017's Vega.

$199 is for the 4GB RX 480 while the 8GB card (supposedly the one playing the Ashes benchmark) will be priced higher.

As with all things, I am going to play devil's advocate here.

One could already assume that NVIDIA killed the GTX 980 and GTX 970 LONG before the RX 480 was launched. They did so with the $379 GTX 1070.

I think a lot of people are jumping at hypotheticals right now. We know next to nothing about the RX 480 and assuming you will buy one is a bit rash at this point considering we have no idea what the competitive landscape will look like come July. But man is it going to be a great 12 months for gamers.

Just remember there is now ONE confirmed RX 480 benchmark in a marketing slide that was referring to a decidedly a unpopular game. Show us comparative Overwatch, Doom, etc. gameplay or at least games that folks are actually playing and then at least we'd have something. Another slightly ironic factor: they were talking VR the whole time but then showed a game that can't even be played in VR. rolleyes.gif

Also a note about that VR survey. I was used as an initial consultant on it and saw many of the associated comments once it closed. Most of those people were concerned about the VR headset cost, rather than the price associated with the accompanying PC. That's just food for thought; folks who are looking at VR typically have a PC that's well equipped to run the environment at low to decent detail levels. Its the high cost of Vive and Oculus that's turning them off.
Edited by SKYMTL - 6/1/16 at 5:46am
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People are ignoring that the 8GB card that was in that CF comparison will be at around 250$ not 200$
The 199$ card will be the 4GB one that will most probably be 32CU and give around 10-15% lower output or even less.

If you want to optimize the CF with RX480 you will need 36CU

As it was pointed out earlier the VR logo is just a PR trick. Now all OEM builders will be able to slap a cheap 199$ card and put the tag "VIRTUAL REALITY READY"

That is a big shiny tag that sells. And that's what it's all about. Ofc. it has other long term positive impacts but for the first few months it's just customers bait.
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Either way the CF benchmark showing 28.7K Graphic just show it already faster than 1080 by 5%. All for 66% the price. Way to go AMD.
but - in Ashes

in non-Ashes it would be ~5%+ below 1080 redface.gif
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The heck?!
Are they saying that R9 480 is half the performance of GTX 1080?
Or whats the beef with 50% GPU utilization?

amd-rx-480-polaris-3.jpg
it could be under Ash of singularity Crossfire did not work properly on early driver yet, instead of showing that.

so they slap in 1 addition card, call it Crossfire....where it is actually just 1 card doing most of the work? .......... biggrin.gif ... hence the 50% utilization.
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Great point... so get two 480x's (2 x $250) and still be cheaper than a 1080 or a 1070...!

Right..?
well of course (well except that 1070 is cheaper then $500), but instead you put up with CF headache biggrin.gif

its always been like that, SLI/CF is p/p value for raw power, but extra issues


like you can SLI 1070 (yeah its not exactly cheap, but still) and absolutely destroy both CF 480 and a single 1080 (and possibly still be on par or ahead of 1080Ti) and go straight into 4K@60+ territory .. but again you have to deal with that SLI mad.gif
Edited by ChevChelios - 6/1/16 at 5:48am
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well of course, but instead you put up with CF headache biggrin.gif

its always been like that, SLI/CF is p/p value for raw power, but extra issues


like you can SLI 1070 (yeah its not exactly cheap, but still) and absolutely destroy both CF 480 and a single 1080 (and possibly still be on par or ahead of 1080Ti) and go straight into 4K@60+ territory .. but again you have to deal with that SLI headache:mad:

You don't want to sli fast cards with 256 bit. something is gonna give. lol
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This is surely an exciting card, particularly at $199. If anything this is a segment of the market which needs the biggest shakeup since AMD's lineup within it is filled with rebrands of rebrands. In many ways Polaris is a pipe-cleaning architecture in preparation for 2017's Vega.

$199 is for the 4GB RX 480 while the 8GB card (supposedly the one playing the Ashes benchmark) will be priced higher.

As with all things, I am going to play devil's advocate here.

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Jamie, we know how certain API's run on CGN.

 

But having the relative performance of a 980 for $199 is a killer for all those who don't have 4k Monitors. I have a few 1080 on the way, but these new 480rx will run all over NVidia's market share this holiday shopping season.

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Any idea when we can expect at least some reviews?
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Jamie, we know how certain API's run on CGN.

But having the relative performance of a 980 for $199 is a killer for all those who don't have 4k Monitors. I have a few 1080 on the way, but these new 480rx will run all over NVidia's market share this holiday shopping season.

Who is Jamie?

I think you are also assuming NVIDIA won't have an answer to all of this before said holiday shopping season. AMD just threw down a pretty substantial gauntlet. If NVIDIA has shown anything, its that they like taking those gauntlets and slamming them back into the thrower's face. Hence why I said this is going to be an awesome year to be a gamer; this competition thing will be awesome! thumb.gif
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