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This guy is still blowing up my inbox telling me a used 980 is worth more than $150 when you can buy Polaris for $199.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1600279/wtb-gtx-980-evga-preferably

My thread that I just closed. A used GTX 980 without a warranty is worth $125 tops.

This is some kind of dual to the death you are having with this guy hey.

Glad I sold my EVGA 980 for £270 AFTER fees on Amazon week and a half ago. That is $390 biggrin.gif

But yeah, now they are worth significantly less.
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anybody know what an r9 nano should sell for now? in the used hardware market
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post #283 of 1394
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Not to rain on parade but AMD only switched the song to "mainstream aim only" around late April. Raja did imply we will see some serious performance out of Polaris in his early interviews ON TOP OF lowering entry point for VR. Some even speculated beyond that (cough Mahigan).

False...

I was talking about Vega and not Polaris. I speculated that Polaris 10 would output around FuryX performance. The RX 480 appears to be around 390x performance which means that the 480x will probably hit the Fury X performance figures.

There are two Vega SKUs. One which is set to compete with GP104 and the other with GP102. Think about it... RX 480 has around 256GB per sec of memory bandwidth and is able to keep up with a card that has around 384GB per sec of memory bandwidth performance. The RX 480 has 2304 cores and is able to compete with a card which has 2816 cores. So I mentioned a 30 to 40% IPC increase for Polaris 10 (a particular user here disagreed with me). AMD showed a 1.8x performance per watt figure due to Finfet followed by a 2.8x figure due to architectural improvements. Basically... AMD are agreeing with what I was saying. You can see this by comparing the amount of memory bandwidth needed for both.

Lets see...

5500 Gflops with 256GB per second vs 5900 Gflops with 384GB per second. That is 21.5 Gflops per 1GB per s of memory bandwidth matching 15.4 Gflops per 1GB per s of memory bandwidth. That means an architectural efficiency boost of 140% or 40% boost in that department. That is HUGE. AMDs memory controller improvements as well as architectural improvements are at play here. It allows AMD to circumvent one of their largest architectural flaws (the reason Hawaii was using a 512bit bus in the first place). All that for under 150W (a single 6 pin with motherboard power offers around 150W max). The full Polaris 10 (RX 480x) will come with 2560 cores vs 2304 cores for the RX 480.

Big Vega will likely pack around 4096 cores whereas the smaller Vega (RX 490 and 490x) will pack less (between 2560 and 4096).

So AMD have released a very competitive part. At $199 ($229 for the 8GB model)... WOW.
Edited by Mahigan - 6/1/16 at 6:27am
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post #284 of 1394
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In Nvidia terms, what is the equivalent of this GPU?
From leaks it looked like C7 is between 980 and Fury. Say like Fury Nano performance. Which for $200 would be decent. The slower C4 was about 390>970<980.

Also the RX480 so far pictured seemed to be as tiny as Nano or almost when it comes to PCB. But I bet AIBs are going to use larger PCB to fit better VRM or some such.
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I'm gonna be watching this closely, might spell good things for eventually replacing my trusty GTX780!
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^ Are you for real or just trolling??? lachen.gif The PS4 Neo & Nextbox1.5 will not have anywhere close to the performance of a RX 480 & it will be decades before we see as console that will match up to whatever Vega winds up being. The main reason they are updating the consoles is because AMD changed all their fabs over to 14nm & do not want to keep producing 28nm chips just for PS4 & XB1. So instead of just updating the manufacturing process to refine the current APUs in the consoles & deliver us slim models (MS may have got to this before the fab change as I have heard rumors of a XB1 slim) Sony & MS have no choice but to use a custom APU made from the 14nm process now. The benefit to consumers is that they will get slightly more powerful consoles but it will cost more & you can bet Sony & MS are not gonna absorb the cost. So what better way to hide the higher cost than to say "hey instead of making slim consoles we upgraded the APU for you! Although it will cost more but hey you'll get 10% to 20% more performance!" rolleyes.gif

Trust me these "upgraded" will be no panacea for console gamers. if they were that much more powerful they would be branded PS5 & XB2? IMHO. 2cents.gif

 

 

Except your conspiracy is off by a billion dollars. Shopping season and VR..!

 

 

Current console horsepower suck balls, both SONY & MS were trying to get to the customer sooner. Microsoft has a little trick up their sleeve. Lowest binned 470's in the new Xbox..?


Edited by formula m - 6/1/16 at 6:30am
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This is some kind of dual to the death you are having with this guy hey.

Glad I sold my EVGA 980 for £270 AFTER fees on Amazon week and a half ago. That is $390 biggrin.gif

But yeah, now they are worth significantly less.

Congrats on your sale. I pity the fool who paid that much. haha

It is a death dual. It's going to end with Polaris destroying used GPU prices.
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probably good idea to wait for gaming benchmarks first for the $199 card and see if it really can match 980 head to head across the board thumb.gif

cant use logic here that make sense, my head exploded scanner style.

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So AMD have released a very competitive part. At $199 ($229 for the 8GB model)... WOW.

I am smiling widely biggrin.gif
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Not sure where the notion of the bulk of the market coming from $200 gpus is coming from?

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Note the GTX 970 $300+ having a significantly bigger market share vs the 960 $200

I once addressed this. People, statistics are very easy...

It is the most popular card. Does not mean most popular segment. See the amount of cards that are weaker than it or older than it!
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I think what's now evident is that AMD is perfectly content (for the time being) to leave NVIDIA to the high end niches and assault the volume segments. IMO, it is an absolutely brilliant plan and one they needed to implement.
Who knows how many contracts has Polaris already won for them so I don't see why they would not be content.
Edited by Serios - 6/1/16 at 6:35am
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