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Originally Posted by T1A1 View Post

Ah, ok.
Well that is more like lawyers talking - They will always spin terms and interpretations that suit their cases best. We are just suitcases in that voyage.
i love what tiago said about the profiling tools that pc needs compared to the ones tha the consoles have i just wonder why we havent them yet given the huge diversity of parts..
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i love what tiago said about the profiling tools that pc needs compared to the ones tha the consoles have i just wonder why we havent them yet given the huge diversity of parts..

OT
Don't want to derail the thread anymore but I guess it's true, that a lot of what we are seeing done from AMD, has been requested by developers.
This is how the industry moves forward and one way or the other, we are all going to win from that.

EDIT: NVM..I truly do not want to get the thread closed.
Edited by C2H5OH - 6/3/16 at 4:22am
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If you look at GP100, it's not out of the range of possibility. The problem is getting higher yields from samsung. As it stands, no full Polaris GPU is known to exist. Yet we know from AMD architecture that it was intended to have 40 CU'S and then somewhat compete with the 1070, which truly only exists to pick up yields from the 1080 on 16nm

If we have this problem on the small scale, we can imagine the problems AMD will have to overcome with vega 10 let alone Vega 11 ( Vega 10 is reportedly the smaller of the Vega series (with a low-400mm die size according to newer rumors)

The reason the GP100 is currently being sold for 15,000$ is also likely yield-related

Who knows, in a full year we might see a GP100(titan 4) release to compete with Vega 11

1) GP100 hasn't been shown. P100 has. They are not one and the same.

2) How do we know "from AMD architecture" that there is/was a 40CU Polaris?
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If you watch AdoredTV he talks about this, its called ndivia mindshare. How nvdias marketing so so good, even during the fermi days, when AMD had better software, and hardware nvidia still managed to hold 50% of the market. AMD only took like 6-7% more.

There's a reason for that which goes beyond marketing. Historically, AMD has been weak on the mobile / notebook side of the equation and that's an area where there are large volume shipments. The "enthusiast" $250+ market accounted for just 11% of volume back in those days while today it accounts for less than 5%. You don't gain market share in discrete $250+ GPUs. thumb.gif

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All part of nvidia marketing. The more youtubers you see with GTX Hardware the more videos GTX hardware is in. It gets to the point where there are so many videos with nvidia hardware people just plain forget about AMD.

Or it could be that NVIDIA simply supports their board partners better than AMD does. Through the 390X, Fury, Fury Nano and Fury X launches, board partners barely received enough cards to stock their retail channels let alone send cards out to reviewers. We actually saw that reflected in the limited to non-existent availability of said cards on launch. There's a problem in all of that which goes well beyond "NVIDIA! MARKETING! DERP!" conversation. It all boils down to one simple saying: "its easy to blame failure on others when there's no one else to blame but yourself".
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They did ? headscratch.gif Link ? thinking.gif

Again and again they have stated Vega is a 2017 product. That could change though.
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God I hate car analogies...


Me too!  It's just funny knowing where he pulled that metric out of.

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Me too!  It's just funny knowing where he pulled that metric out of.

The anus?
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There seems to be a lot of talk about 480 vs 1070 but I'm not really sure it needs to compete with the 1070 at anything but 1080p. In the value segment most (like huge majority) users are 1080p@60hz. The 1070 is a bit overpowered for this segment, I think the 480 is going to deliver the same 1080p@60hz experience that the 1070 will but it's going to deliver it much cheaper. There really isn't much of a reason to consider the 1070 until you get into high refresh rate 1080p or 1440p.
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There seems to be a lot of talk about 480 vs 1070 but I'm not really sure it needs to compete with the 1070 at anything but 1080p. In the value segment most (like huge majority) users are 1080p@60hz. The 1070 is a bit overpowered for this segment, I think the 480 is going to deliver the same 1080p@60hz experience that the 1070 will but it's going to deliver it much cheaper. There really isn't much of a reason to consider the 1070 until you get into high refresh rate 1080p or 1440p.

I mean, as of right now, there is no segment in which AMD/nV are directly competing.

That may change in few months when nV finally gets around releasing 1060, but for those few months AMD has the mainstream segment for itself.
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There seems to be a lot of talk about 480 vs 1070 but I'm not really sure it needs to compete with the 1070 at anything but 1080p. In the value segment most (like huge majority) users are 1080p@60hz. The 1070 is a bit overpowered for this segment, I think the 480 is going to deliver the same 1080p@60hz experience that the 1070 will but it's going to deliver it much cheaper. There really isn't much of a reason to consider the 1070 until you get into high refresh rate 1080p or 1440p.

There is no such thing as overpowered GPU. Only improper games.
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Even TB covered RX 480.
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There is no such thing as overpowered GPU. Only improper games.

There is when one is talking about budget and value.
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