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I'm amazed that people still don't know what TFLOPS or Clock Speed means, while they often use them as a measurement between different cards and architectures, which is something as reliable as Donald Trump as President.

TFLOPS can only be used as measurement between two cards of the same architecture, same node, same everything, think of the 290 and 290X, Fury and Fury X.

TFLOPS can be used as a reliable measurement between different cards and architectures IF you intend to measure Compute Performance alone, not overall performance.
There are different Polaris 10 Variants, the Full Fat P10 is rumoured to sell for 300$ and should use two 6 Pins Connector, or a 8 Pin at the very least.

If we look at AMD history of releasing Mainstream and Performance cards (Think of the 7870 - 7850 and HD 6000 - 5000 Series equivalent) They always, without exception, launched a 7870 with more than a 6 Pins Power Connector and then a HD 7850 with a single 6 pin connector, every single generation it has been the same and it have never changed.

Polaris was revealed to have a single 6 Pin Power Connector, and if there is not another Polaris card with an extra 6 Pin connector then this will be the first time in AMD's history that this have happened.

AMD is most likely, if not surely, going to release a Full Fat P10 with a double 6 pins connector for 300$ and this is what's going to compete with a 1070, probably faster than a Fury X.

What did you mean with "think of the 290 and 290X, Fury and Fury X"? Was it not a reliable way of judging IRL performance? Since I dint know what TFLOPS mean I might have it all wrong. The rest I agree, pretty much their usual course of action.
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Games do not use Compute. If they did use compute than AMD cards would be very strong. Also compute really only good to compare within same architecture.
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What did you mean with "think of the 290 and 290X, Fury and Fury X"? Was it not a reliable way of judging IRL performance? Since I dint know what TFLOPS mean I might have it all wrong. The rest I agree, pretty much their usual course of action.

I mean you can use TFLOPS to measure performance between a 290 and a 290X but you can't use TFLOPS to compare different cards. (Different Architectures)
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That's exactly what AMD is claiming though.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10389/amd-teases-radeon-rx-480-launching-june-29th-for-199

Wow, I did not see that. Would be truly amazing if gaming performance is comparable to that of $500 cards. Thought it was going to sit around R9 290x performance. GG AMD.
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I'm amazed that people still don't know what TFLOPS or Clock Speed means, while they often use them as a measurement between different cards and architectures, which is something as reliable as Donald Trump as President.

TFLOPS can only be used as measurement between two cards of the same architecture, same node, same everything, think of the 290 and 290X, Fury and Fury X.
People is doing those comparison because of Asynchronous shaders, maybe?
in theory people can compare R9 290X with Fury X but really they cant compare a RX 480 with a R9 390X since they arent in the same category


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If we look at AMD history of releasing Mainstream and Performance cards (Think of the 7870 - 7850 and HD 6000 - 5000 Series equivalent) They always, without exception, launched a 7870 with more than a 6 Pins Power Connector and then a HD 7850 with a single 6 pin connector, every single generation it has been the same and it have never changed.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2458/radeon-r9-270
Edited by PontiacGTX - 6/5/16 at 7:26pm
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I mean you can use TFLOPS to measure performance between a 290 and a 290X but you can't use TFLOPS to compare different cards. (Different Architectures)

Ahhh okay, just thought it was a marginally accurate way of judging performance across Hawaii to Fiji thus maybe being accurate way of judging the RX 480. Hope I'm wrong.
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People is doing those comparison because of Asynchronous shaders, maybe?
in theory people can compare R9 290X with Fury X but really they cant compare a RX 480 with a R9 390X since they arent in the same category
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2458/radeon-r9-270

Even Fury X vs 290X cant be compared really. Fury X is limited. It's not 40% faster than 290X like specks show us. Its more in line 20-25%.
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Even Fury X vs 290X cant be compared really. Fury X is limited. It's not 40% faster than 290X like specks show us. Its more in line 20-25%.
I mean comparing them as flagship, comparing the equivalent for the new series
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I mean comparing them as flagship, comparing the equivalent

Going from 7970 to 290X AMD beefed up the foundations. From 290X to Fury X the foundations remained the same. Polaris goes back to beefing up the foundations of GCN.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2466/radeon-r9-270x

6 Pins X 2.

R9 270 - 270X | HD 7870 - 7850 | HD 6870 - HD 6850 |

AMD always release a 6 Pin and a two 6 Pins Connector card, always for the same segment, we have seen Polaris 10 with 6 Pin Power Connectors, Polaris 10 double 6 Pins should be available at roughly the same time and I believe it will cost 300$-329$ sporting Titan X/GTX 1070 performance.
Edited by Dargonplay - 6/5/16 at 7:52pm
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