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The 1060 is irrelevant if NV can only get it out by October/November, at that point they've already lost, even if it has the same price - perf.. That's why mainstream timing is so important, being first in the biggest market is more important than being first in the smallest..

But I won't underestimate NV, who knows the 1060 could be right around the corner. thumb.gif

Win/loss will be, tbh, decided by the market.
If the 1060 gives better performance at around the similar price range, it might sell better if it comes with bigger stock or if the 480 comes with limited stock. If not, maybe not.
Since it is not out yet, and everything is just rumoured, there is no point claiming loss already.

Also since the 480 is just 4GB, if the 1060 comes with 8GB and similar price as the 8GB version, we might also see a 1050 which will rival the 480 4GB at even lower price. You never know.
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Win/loss will be, tbh, decided by the market.
If the 1060 gives better performance at around the similar price range, it might sell better if it comes with bigger stock or if the 480 comes with limited stock. If not, maybe not.
Since it is not out yet, and everything is just rumoured, there is no point claiming loss already.

Also since the 480 is just 4GB, if the 1060 comes with 8GB and similar price as the 8GB version, we might also see a 1050 which will rival the 480 4GB at even lower price. You never know.

I'm not claiming a loss, I'm simply saying all of that doesn't matter if Nvidia can only bring their competitor to market 5 months later. The vast majority of consumers buy GPU's at the 480's price, if NV don't have anything to offer in that tier then consumers only have one place to go.

It all depends on how quickly Nvidia can bring the 1060 to market, and whether or not their brand image is strong enough to keep consumers from buying AMD instead of waiting for them.

For example, it's my little brothers birthday in a couple months, i can't afford to buy him a $400 GPU but i can easily buy him a $199 one. If Nvidia have nothing to offer then i have to go with the 480. And NV getting a "win" 5 months later would mean nothing, they've already lost my purchase. That's been AMD's biggest problem of late, which is why they've flipped their release schedules.
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I'm not claiming a loss, I'm simply saying all of that doesn't matter if Nvidia can only bring their competitor to market 5 months later. The vast majority of consumers buy GPU's at the 480's price, if NV don't have anything to offer in that tier then consumers only have one place to go.

It all depends on how quickly Nvidia can bring the 1060 to market, and whether or not their brand image is strong enough to keep consumers from buying AMD instead of waiting for them.

For example, it's my little brothers birthday in a couple months, i can't afford to buy him a $400 GPU but i can easily buy him a $199 one. If Nvidia have nothing to offer then i have to go with the 480. And NV getting a "win" 5 months later would mean nothing, they've already lost my purchase. That's been AMD's biggest problem of late, which is why they've flipped their release schedules.

Considering we went from no information about GP104 whatsoever to a paper launch in about a month, nV has shown that it can be fairly quick. With that said, i dare to bet 480 will have about 3 months of free reign simply because you can't pull off the 1080 launch with $200 GPUs, if you want to sell them.

The question remains: how many 480s will actually be present in stocks after the wave of memecoin bandwagoners wipe them off? And for those lucky to snatch one or two for actual gaming: how bad release drivers will be.
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Considering we went from no information about GP104 whatsoever to a paper launch in about a month, nV has shown that it can be fairly quick. With that said, i dare to bet 480 will have about 3 months of free reign simply because you can't pull off the 1080 launch with $200 GPUs, if you want to sell them.

The question remains: how many 480s will actually be present in stocks after the wave of memecoin bandwagoners wipe them off? And for those lucky to snatch one or two for actual gaming: how bad release drivers will be.

Yup, there's so many variables involved so who knows.

I'm not involved with mining in any way but from what i understand it's no longer very viable to do it, so i don't think that'll be an issue this time. I'm in it for Vega and big Pascal so i just get to sit back and watch this round pan out. thumb.gif
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My guess is the majority of OCN members who comment in this thread do not own a VR system, nor any type of 3D display.
I remember the arguments against 3D displays (glasses, poorly rendered 3D, ghosting, cost, and so on).
It's easy to believe VR is good when you don't actually use it.
As a long time 3D Vision user (who does not own a VR display), my first two concerns with a VR system are:

(1) Is it comfortable? Can I wear it a long time? and (2) Can I play my favorite games? Do my favorite games render well in VR?
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that is the "problem", vr isn't ready yet.
if you want to throw money that's cool. its yours, you do whatever you want. i just don't like to waste on things that aren't ready and people should think before go crazy on them.
the only proper support that vr has right now is pornhub, the rest are the mini games to shoot\grab things.
once you played those games for a few hours it will get old because they don't have any depth lol its like a testdrive.

Its like the wii all over again, just more expensive and with porn support.
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Why people are so hurt about this gpu, finaly we get a midrange gpu for a very attractive price that could play all games ( also vr capable ) in good quality and frames rate and moderate powerdraw, are they happy with mid rage gpus with crappy coolers and voltage problem for 700$+ if yes we are doomed for sure
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Why people are so hurt about this gpu, finaly we get a midrange gpu for a very attractive price that could play all games ( also vr capable ) in good quality and frames rate and moderate powerdraw, are they happy with mid rage gpus with crappy coolers and voltage problem for 700$+ if yes we are doomed for sure

You sound like you're hurt about 1080. 480 is badass value for now, but matter of fact: AMD conceded high end market for half a year. Once again.
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You sound like you're hurt about 1080. 480 is badass value for now, but matter of fact: AMD conceded high end market for half a year. Once again.
Nope i'll by a custum 1080 and a vega like i bought 2 furys and 2 980tis don't bother arging with me for buyer remors biggrin.gif
But facts are here the 480 is the fresh air that this market needed thumb.gif
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Why people are so hurt about this gpu, finaly we get a midrange gpu for a very attractive price that could play all games ( also vr capable ) in good quality and frames rate and moderate powerdraw, are they happy with mid rage gpus with crappy coolers and voltage problem for 700$+ if yes we are doomed for sure

Say what? Attractive price, to who, people who never need to check their bank acc?
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