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HMD+gpu-

200+600 or 600+600, which one is better deal ? as long as both are giving same vr experience?
are you making a claim on record that $199 RX480 has the same vr experience as GTX1070/1080 ?
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Where did the "discredit vr"? Or have you read that in the crystal ball or used a 480 with 970 performance to read his mind?
The article is written in a way to attack but both the quotes and his answer have nothing to do with discrediting VR, but about that it needs more to improve.
Sure, his direct words are nothing special, but read between lines and confront what he said now with what he said at gtx 1080 presentation. After seeing the price of p10 he want to say to people that vr is meh atm, not worth to bother. Do you get it now?

don't bother explaining that, it's self evident.
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AMD is doing what now? you got all this from announcement of RX480, which will be priced and perform about the same as GTX1060?

will AMD buy 800 euro Vive for me and huge American style house with dedicated room for VR gaming? i don't see how 200 euro card here makes VR more affordable, hack, even if GTX1080 was 200 euro it wouldn't make VR more affordable for me, and I already have a top of the line gaming rig easily capable of VR.
get a job, or move to land with higher salary. No jokes, if you cannot aford something worth 200$ you are very poor. And im not making jokes from you. And i know it is not as easy as it sound, but you know the english. This is a damn lot to start with. GL thumb.gif
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are you making a claim on record that $199 RX480 has the same vr experience as GTX1070/1080 ?
i was trying to make a scenario, we don't really know about 480's performance yet, but less say if it's same as even 1070 in vr, doesn't it makes it a better choice ? you can spend that 180$ you save for better HMD.
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He says VR is not affordable even with a cheap GPU for him, but he already has a "top of the line" rig capable of VR. we know what's up, got nothing to defend JHH with but the programming mandates that he try.
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Thank you gods for this, the downfall of Jen-Hsun Huang. It's going to take the industry 20 years to get better panels and better graphics and smaller? Haha! And Nvidia is completely ignoring the mobile market? If I was a major shareholder I'd be calling for his replacement. He's really lost it now applaud.gif


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VR, as VR, has been alive more than 30 years.
Even in the 80s we have go almost the exact same headset idea setup as we do today. 80s. The first VR headsets from 1960s looks similar to now.

VR headsets have come back to fashion without a single real innovation.
Screens after better, colors are better, sound is better, tracking is better, but none of it is revolutionary, since the technology has evolved so much, and computer power evolved, that it is pretty much a given.

Having to connect your headset to a powerful computer (or use your phone on the headset with its measly performance compared to a dedicated machine), is far from ideal, and yet over so many years, we are still stuck at the same ergonomically design. And we will still be stuck at the same design for the next 20 years unless something actual revolutionary comes out.

So yeah, VR of today, is majorly, just a hype. It is going to take years more for real improvement.


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http://www.techradar.com/us/news/wearables/meet-the-sulon-q-amd-s-wireless-self-powered-vr-headset--131686
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post #47 of 207
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Where did the "discredit vr"? Or have you read that in the crystal ball or used a 480 with 970 performance to read his mind?
The article is written in a way to attack but both the quotes and his answer have nothing to do with discrediting VR, but about that it needs more to improve.
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His comments won’t surprise many people who’ve used VR so far, but what’s interesting is how little interest in actually solving this side of the problem the CEO expressed.

Nvidia spent most of their press conference boasting about VR and how impressive it is etc. Now they get undercut and suddenly it has a lot of problems blah. blah.. Everyone knows VR is in it's infancy, but if you don't think it's ready why make it one of the biggest selling points of your new product? Or use it over and over again in marketing slides?

The funniest part.. "Good VR is 20 years away". So why pay Adam Savage, Steve Wozniak, and company to demo it for you? Why is it one of the biggest selling points over Maxwell?

Besides you and a some of the members tossing VR to the side now didn't seem this negative about it in the 1080 thread.. Maybe you were, but there seemed like a lot more interest in it over there. tongue.gif
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I think it is kind of neat, doubt I use it very much, but it could be neat to browse a compilation of 360 screenshots on my phone someday, like someone that has played EVE a lot and has some really nice ones, etc.

Also, works with VR headsets, so could be neat to explore other peoples moments.

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Yeah i was thinking the same.
Capturing a 2000 pilots fight in an exteme detailed resolution from the middle of the grid, and then share it in VR or just being able to look around later, will make it a epic capture moment.

But also capulturing in game screen from the lates high detailed games, edit in photoshop for dramatic effects etc, is also a cool feature.

No matter which IHV is doing it, it's cool tech, just strange how some only like it when it's on "their side".. You should of told caenien that's it's 20 years away before he got all excited..
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Someone better go and delete their posts from the 1080 thread...lol.
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Well, for once I agree with him. VR is in it's infancy and really cumbersome like he said, nothing new here.

By the time VR is relevant, nvidia will have the tech to win customers once again... sad but true. AMD always pushing the future with own cost.
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if someone can afford this than blablabla....

please stop using that pathetic excuse. you guys can't even do basic math or what ?

before RX 480, situation was like this - 800$ for HMD and 500$ for vr capable gpu = 1300$
now after RX 480 it's down to 1000$, saving your 300$ are you guys so freaking blind that you can't see those savings?


everyone owns something expensive, doesn't mean everything he owns has same expensive price just because he can afford that one expensive thing.
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