Originally Posted by Account Banned
R.I.P Windows Live Mail, R.I.P DSTN displays, and most importantly R.I.P AOL dial-up disks.
I honestly never understood email clients. I tried Thunderbird for a while but I just liked accessing my email through my browser more. Maybe it's because I only have one email address?
I agree with you in full, and have several email accounts that's accessed through the browser only. For whatever reason, no matter the email client, even WLM, won't work with GMail & a couple of other accounts I use. Google denies, saying it's a 'less secure' way. Others requires a bunch of crap I have no idea to configure nor care for the trouble.
I'm also with you on AOL, as well as Yahoo, and the last time I had dial up was in the previous Millennium, back in the days when AOL was sending out CD's with 1,000 hours for free, or however it worked, been so dang long ago I forgot, and really don't care to remember.
In regards to the person I was assisting, as an Advisor on another prominent forum, was making an attempt to calm her down. Members go ape crazy over this stuff, and it's part of my duties to assist others when in need, in addition to assisting the Moderators in overseeing the forum. I only installed WLM to prove that it was still up, not that I give a squat about it, if I were her, would be more concerned over Intel's announcement in regards to 'limited support' for any OS below W10 on 6th gen CPU's, of which she has a i7-6700K.
The bad that goes with any Staff position, and I've had to make this prominent in my signature, that any requests for assistance by PM will be deleted w/out response. It's bad when members PM's Staff members for everything, some things not even tech related, for starters, I'm not a marital counselor. Yet a few thought I was. While I like to be able to help everyone, I can't, plus it's against the rules of most forums to manage Topics by PM, if I see that (PM me) in a post, will be deleted & Topic normally is closed.
This wasn't just any member though, rather a friend, and I helped her pick out the best off the shelf PC at the best price at Costco, where my XPS 8700 came from.
Now back to this Topic, it's very doubtful that any 'kaby-lake' CPU will be purchased by me, just the name suggests it to be a pushover generation (rhymes with 'baby-lake') , or possibly a transitional one for a larger gen, kind of like Broadwell was, a short run that didn't last long at all. Broadwell was the shortest run if the 'i' series in it's history by a good shot. At least many remembers (& still owns) CPU's of the 1st through 4th gen Intel 'i' series, Broadwell wasn't discussed hardly at all on many forums.
Intel needs to slow down the release cycles, get more profit out of what's on the market, and spend more time in R&D on a serious quad core CPU, many of us has seen & owned enough 4.0GHz releases, time for bigger & better pastures, 4.5GHz w/4.9 to 5.0Ghz Turbo isn't unreasonable to ask for the enthusiast market. This is not 2004, when Intel had 3.8Ghz on a single core with H/T & backed off over cooling issues. This is 2016 & the cooling issues should be far more advanced by now to support more power in a quad, even at 95-100W. That's still half of what the competition does for less computing power, a lot of wasted energy, and while I've purchased AMD, stick with $125 or below models, these uses less power, doesn't run very hot, and more 'bang for the buck'. Don't take my word for it. look here. PC feels as responsive as all except two of my Intel ones, and that's the XPS 8700 w/4790K (upgrade from i7-4770 until I have the cash for the rest of my upcoming build) & my Optiplex 780 with a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 (3.0Ghz). Back in the day when a CPU was just that & graphics were on the backs of the OEM's, or purchase a discrete GPU.
The CPU of this PC I'm now on doesn't carry the baggage of trying to do graphics, therefore, for much less, the 6 core FX-6300 is fast for it's cost, for that matter, so was the 1st gen quad core it replaced, the Athlon II x4 630 (still posted a 7.2 on Windows 7 WEI). The OEM's gets a free pass on the graphics, and do they reduce the price? NO! They charge more for less, kind of what Intel is doing now with many CPU's, the notebook line (their top sellers) are horrid, most any decent i5/i7 M CPU can stomp a mud hole through the average CPU in today's notebooks. Except those built for extreme gaming, of course these costs a lot of cash, $2,000 for starters, $3,000 or more to get a model with a 10Gbps speed M.2 SSD for the OS, and a 500GB SATA-3 for Data, and to get dual or SLI graphics, tack on another grand.
Yet these aren't 'everyday' notebooks, there's 2nd & 3rd gen true quad core mobile i7's that'll squash most any off the shelf notebook of today (even their very watered down i7's) with ease. Associating an i7 with 20W TDP is a joke, and makes the series look bad. If an i3, Pentium or Celeron, I could see it, but an i5 or above needs wattage to produce brute force power. Try running a virtual machine on one of those & one will see.
The jury's out on 'baby-lake', though I see it to be a transitional release, something bigger will likely come afterwards. It's still too early to see the success of the 6th gen series yet, go to Passmark or many sites that rates CPU's by raw numbers, there's not a 6th gen in the Top 10 commonly used CPU's, and has been out for 8 months. Didn't take the 1st through 4th gen 'i' series that long to take over the list, the i7-4770 that my XPS 8700 shipped with is still in the Top 5, three years post release.
Sadly, it'll take a huge release once again by AMD to force Intel to step up, get away from the coffee pot, spend less time playing golf during extended lunch breaks & give consumers what we want, higher powered than ever quad core CPU's in the $300-350 range. I don't believe that's asking for too much, and in the year 2016, the tech is there.
CatEdited by cat1092 - 6/15/16 at 5:11pm